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Auteur: Hendrik Boom
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Aan: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] Init scripts in packages
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 02:38:48AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> You could always lift scripts from Wheezy and use them as a template.


Or even from jessie, now that Debian jessie in stable.

-- hendrik

>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@???>
> wrote:
>
> > T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/07/2015 09:31 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Trivial as in, somebody has to do it. The whole point of packaging is
> >>> to automate a lot of the routine things involved in installation.
> >>>
> >>> And, because Debian (and presumeably Devuan) don't put stuff in default
> >>> locations, packaging involves changing the default locations of things.
> >>>
> >>> Where this leads is that down the road, we either need a full set of
> >>> Devuan-specific package maintainers, or everybody is back to compiling and
> >>> installing from upstream source.
> >>>
> >>> Miles Fidelman
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Good evening, Miles! =)
> >>
> >
> > Good morning T.J. !
> >
> >>
> >> If I might offer an opinion, I do not think that the situation is quite
> >> that dire. The packages that require init scripts are a tiny fraction of
> >> the entire repository. For the moment, the scripts Devuan needs are still
> >> in the Debian archives as Jesse has System 5 support.
> >>
> >> Devuan can just replicate them and support them moving forward.
> >>
> >>
> > Well, maybe. The original poster started with the statement "Currently
> > Debian packages contains both systemd units and init scripts. However,
> > Debian developers refused to support several init systems. So it's only a
> > matter of time when they remove init scripts from packages." If that's
> > true, then we have problem.
> >
> > My sense is that systemd is having close to zero effect on upstream code -
> > most stuff is shipping with traditional sysv init scripts, with some folks
> > adding systemd units, but most basically ignoring systemd.
> >
> > If the Debian packagers do what makes sense - i.e., simply tweak sysv init
> > scripts that come from upstream, and rely on systemd's support for init
> > scripts, then all is copacetic.
> >
> > If, instead, they start removing the sysv scripts, and including homebrew
> > systemd units - then we're in for a mess of rework.
> >
> > Miles
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
> >
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