Miles,

Remember that devuan is still at Aplha2.
Perhaps Beta 1 will be free of systemd, but until then, aptitude is your
friend!

DaveT

On 08/08/15 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Riccardo Boninsegna wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Dave Turner
>> <dave_t_turner@???> wrote:
>>> various XFCE irritations for normal people made me do a full debian
>>> jessie install with systemd and all. I soooo wish I hadn't!
>>> XFCE doesn't work at all.
>> Devuan Testing installs systemd by default, but it's easy to remove
>> without breaking anything,
>> and after installing pm-utils XFCE works perfectly on my computer!
>>
> Wait, what????
>
> I thought a primary motivation for Devuan was to NOT install systemd
> by default.
>
> Miles Fidelman
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