On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:53:37PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> =( Bummer!
>
> There must be a way to get what you want, although I honestly do not know
> enough about systemd to help you out. Like yourself, I am more familiar with
> the System 5 way of doing things.
>
> Wish I could be more help.

Thanks, I appreciate the sentiment and willingness to help. I actually
got a lot of useful advice from a number of folks here, and have found
the various discussions to be quite interesting. If it wasn't for
systemd, that might not have happened!

I actually don't mind dropping gnome. It does depend on systemd by
defacto, and is bulky. I did try xfce in a fresh install of debian
jessie, and found it gave me speech when I rebooted after the
install. It also is more snappy than gnome, and felt more like gnome2
for me, which I didn't mind. This gives me hope that I should find
xfce useable in devuan.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the slim login manager. I was able to
get speech in the graphical login manager debian jessie provides when
installing the xfce task, but I didn't investigate what that manager
is. I did plan to do another fresh install of debian jessie in a
virtual machine, install slim (if it is there), and see what happens,
but I didn't get around to that yet. In the worst case scenario, I
should be able to disable the graphical login manager from starting in
devuan, and should be able to just use startx from a text console when
I need the GUI.

Greg


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