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Autor: Didier Kryn
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To: dng
Betreff: Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel
Le 03/08/2015 12:03, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> writes:
>> I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
>> rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
>> this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually
>> reserved for highly qualified and highly skilled coders.
> A completely different remark: What you find in the kernel (or any other
> software) is code and not coders and someone being "highly qualified and
> highly skilled" (whatever this is supposed to mean precisely) is not the
> same as "all code written by said someone will be of high quality" and
> what precisely constitutes "code of high quality" is very much a matter
> of opinion (and many opinions people hold on such topics are not exactly
> perfectly rational). Eg, the people working on kdbus certainly consider
> it code of high quality (and everyone who things otherwise a dimwit
> whose opinion doesn't matter or someone with a nefarious, hidden agenda
> whose opinions ought to be ignored because they're just blinds, anyway)
> and the other party - compose of exactly the same kind of beings
> commonly known as humans - sees this in exactly the same way, just with
> a different sign.


     Which matters in the case is what Linux Torwalds and other kernel 
developpers think of the quality of dbus, and the opinion of Torwalds is 
very bad, and for this reason he still rejects the main argument in 
favour of kdbus, which is performance.


     You will certainly agree that, if kdbus is provided in the kernel, 
there is nothing we can do against it,  but nobody forces us to use it, 
nor even to enable it when compiling the kernel.


     There has been a long thread of discussion on this subject on 
dyne.org. Maybe you could look at the archives.


     Thanks.
                         Didier