On 2015-07-25 08:12, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On 25/07/2015 10:53, James Powell wrote:
>> CDE was the defacto desktop for many UNIX branded systems like IRIX,
>> Solaris, HP-UX, and others until many replaced it with Gnome2, Xfce,
>> KDE, and others.
>>
>> Sun/Oracle replaced CDE with Java Desktop Environment back on Solaris
>> 10
>> I believe when OpenSolaris was still being developed. I think Solaris
>> uses a more traditional DE now though.
>
> I used CDE on Solaris back in 1997-98, and found it to be pretty
> usable. It was the default DE on the universities UNIX systems,
> including all their HP-UX nodes which were essentially dumb X
> terminals (via remote X to a bigger Solaris system). Not much
> different to XFCE to be honest in terms of its panel, though it did
> include a Glade-like UI development application, a file manager and
> other facilities as well. At the time I thought it quite heavyweight,
> but today it's probably much smaller than even XFCE.
>
> Solaris was using GNOME2 in the mid 2000s which is why it became much
> more polished and usable when the Sun usability folk were involved,
> and took a big dive in usability with GNOME3 when they were replaced
> by hipsters who only cared about mobile phones. Looks like they are
> still using GNOME2 today.
>
> The main sticking point for CDE on modern systems is its lack of
> support for UTF-8 font handling. IIRC its maintainers were working on
> that, but I'm not aware of its recent status.

Maybe this paper helps (Anti-Aliased Fonts and UTF-8 Support in
OpenMotif 2.3 White Paper):
http://web.archive.org/web/20070630102512/http://www.motifzone.net/files/documents/Fonts_UTF-8_WhitePaperv6.pdf

>
> Regards,
> Roger
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