On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On 7/24/2015 6:30 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
>> Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
>> 'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
>>
>> here's what i'm talking about:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
>>
>> "CDE was designed with end users, software developers, and system
>> administrators in mind. It gives end users a consistent, customizable,
>> network-aware graphical user interface across workstations and PCs.
>> CDE gives software developers a single set of graphical user interface
>> (GUI) and desktop programming interfaces for all platforms that
>> support the X Window System,TM simplifying the task of creating and
>> distributing cross-platform applications."
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> CDE is basically dead, and in my opinion should remain dead. While I
> can share your enthusiasm for older DE's, CDE was never a favorite of
> anyone except corporate. Everyone else was using FVWM, Andrew, or
> OpenLook.

Not really, it wasn't a 'favorite' because it was not free.

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>> The source code to the programs and libraries are released under the
>> GNU LGPL 2.0 or later.
>> Motif is under the LGPL as well.
>
> Only because they realized Motif is dead as a cash cow. When I
> started with UNIX - you had to license Motif, and it was not cheap.

Sure, but it is free software now.

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> If I might say so, X11 is in its twilight years, so bringing back old
> DEs will just get harder and harder. Out of all the things I have
> seen who tried and failed, I honestly think that Wayland will replace
> X11. Anything that you can't sever from X11 will probably be left
> behind or run in XWayland.

I'm sorry, but i don't trust wayland devels as i don't trust systemd
developers. To me
it clear that wayland IS another red hat project.

>
> Personally, I think that efforts should be focused on building
> lightweight UIs instead of DEs. I think that tiling window managers
> are the direction the future will be taking. They are far more
> efficient, task oriented, and lend themselves better to devices that
> allow natural use - touch and motion sensing.

Using CDE/Motif doesn't exclude other options. And yes, we could keep,
maintain and
Improve Xorg.

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