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Autor: Didier Kryn
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To: dng
Betreff: Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Will there be a MirDevuan "WTF"?
Le 24/07/2015 00:37, Isaac Dunham a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:49:11PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 23/07/2015 22:19, Isaac Dunham a écrit :
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:12:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>>
>>>>> For those of you who don't want dbus, my experience tells me that
>>>>> getting rid of it would involve something like the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Use something like fvwm, Openbox or LXDE that makes minimal or no use
>>>>> of dbus.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Don't use NetworkManager. I don't remember whether Wicd uses dbus or
>>>>> not. If Wicd uses dbus, just do a combination of iwlist scanning and
>>>>> wpa_supplicant to "dial in" Wifi.
>>> wpa_cli will also work; if anyone's interested, I've written a shellscript
>>> based on dialog that simplifies configuring wpa_supplicant.
>>      I don't understand why you, Isaac, and also Steve want to do this
>> yourself and always avoid speaking of wpa_gui. wpa_gui will really help you
>> configuring wpa_supplicant. It detects all the needed parameters and only
>> requires you to enter the secret keys. Why rewrite all this yourself (unless
>> for training)?
> My main motive was the fact that wpa_gui will not work unless you already
> have a working wpa_supplicant.conf & wpa_supplicant is running.
> (My script was partly inspired by how hard it is to figure out what goes
> in wpa_supplicant.conf if you've never used wpa_supplicant before.)

    man wpa_supplicant.conf   and    google howto wpa_supplicant

> It also has to do with Qt4 vs. dialog: one drags in one of the largest
> GUI toolkits around, and the other is a couple hundred kilobytes,
> runs in text mode, and only depends on a single library that's basically
> guaranteed to be installed and implements a POSIX API, with an installed
> size in the half megabyte range.
> (In case you're wondering about the "POSIX API" part, curses is part of
> POSIX; dialog only needs ncurses.)


     That's a very good point. Thanks for pointing it.

>
> For what it's worth, my script also works with whiptail, although --
> contrary to the whiptail docs -- whiptail ends up using many times
> the space on i386, between libslang, libnewt, and libpopt, besides
> being buggy. In theory, it will also work with Xdialog if you have it.
>
>
>>      BTW I had a look at wicd the other day and read I could only configure
>> it for one  wifi station. Is that true? wpa_supplicant can store an
>> unlimited list of stations and connect to the one it detects... I have more
>> than 30 in my wpa_supplicant.conf -- labs, homes, hotels, bars.
> I don't recall seeing any signs of such a limitation when I used wicd
> for connecting to wireless at home and at college...
> That said, when I tried it was fond of spawning lots of wpa_supplicant
> processes.

>


     I figured this out the the documentation. It might only be the doc 
which is misleading, hence my question.


     Thanks.
                     Didier