Is it because you send from (pasting from your header):

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
        Thunderbird/38.1.0

or is it for some other reason (or for both or/and other reasons yet),
who can tell?

But...
>
>
> On 7/23/2015 12:01 AM, miro.rovis@??? wrote:
> >Because, prove me wrong.
> Miro, I truly wish you well, but feel no need to prove anything to you. :-)
>
If you are developing for the public who want to use Free Open Source
Software, you may need to be at least kind, not in such attempted
condiscending protecting fashion like the line above would want to
sound, but sincerely kind, at least to some extent, and also truthful in
recognizing actual arguments put to you regarding the software they you
want to develop, or develop with, and which they want to use.
> >Often the surveillors most used tools, since otherwise they wouldn't be
> >able to follow their targets, is exactly multiseats. They see, sitting in
> >their bunkers, which public at large has mostly never any notion about,
> >and thanks to stuff like dbus, multiseat, pulseaudio (pulsoaudio was
> >designed by those tools of the one-Ring-cravers for eavesdropping!), and
> >surely systemd goes to perfection in bulk collection and worse!...
> >
[Remember the "But... " above. My Mutt showing me this, from the
Thunderbird GUI that T.J. Duchene uses, mangled, and I don't see it
displayed clearly on:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150723.073512.9673917a.en.html
either...
> >They see, sitting in their bunkers, their target's every move, every move!
> >On their screen, replicated what the torget does. In real time! And most
> >of them wouldn't be able to follow their targets without such aides,
> >because they're not all experts, really. A little harder following their
> >tagets without any poetterware. A disclaimer: fine, the spies following
> >targets, fine! When we really talk terrorists and criminals, you should
> >follow those, I approve of that! But for the love of God, not wholesale
> >surveillance on the general population, please! Regards!
>
>
> The reason we prefer FOSS to proprietary code is that the source code is
> open. You should never infer such things about other people and their
> contributions to FOSS without proof, which you can easily get.
What proof? That there exists mass surveillance by most all big subjects
that can afford it? You need proofs for that?

That the RPC in dbus are made so that the programs in unixdom could work
with proprietory programs? I'm really no expert on this one, but I did
remember it well when a programmer complained about it. And I simply
believed. Just like I believe Jude C. Nelson when he said no need of
dbus for vdev (which I must repeat, is great to know!).

> If you have proof of these things, please post the relevant portions
> of the source code so that I might see these things, and offer you my
> deepest thanks.
Again, what proofs? That there is bulk data collection?

And if there is bulk data collection, the new term, previous term: mass
surveillance... If is it there, and I don't think you can denied that
there is, then:

Do you really really think they wouldn't want to get into all of unixdom
like they have in their pocket everything, I mean everything (and I'm
only citing Edward Snowden, the American hero), all of appledom and all
of M$ windillidillidom.

Do you really really think they wouldn't get their f**ing tools (only
citing Christopher Barry, find the link on, wait, I'll copy it from
there:
ttp://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/12/459
(copied from:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150722.143942.1c1b286a.en.html
))
Do you really really think they wouldn't get their tools (Poettering,
Sievers and cameraderie), to work, and work hard to open the unixdom to
them like the appledom and windillidillidom? (Sorry I really hate
windoze). What do you think they pay them such money for? To make the
world freeer and nicer? Or to serve their one-ring-to-rule-them-all
purposes?
> Until you have real proof, baseless rumor and innuendo damage people's
> reputations for no reason. It is wrong, and it is in very poor taste.
> Without proof, no one will take you seriously, and rightly so.
>
Poor taste is Windoze, and overwhelmed in such poor taste, you have
difficulty understanding my arguments. Maybe because you don't want to
admit the truth.

Poor taste is Windoze, if we know history, and many in Devuan do, and
always will, I hope. How much has that Billy the bandit (morally so),
turned (of recent) eugenic philantropist, made this world a more stupid
and less free place... (I mean Bill Gates if someone is in doubt).

Is it that you have no access to a *nix OS, or is it why? Do you like
Windoze? How can someone like Windoze and develop in Linux, I sincerely
don't understand that.
> Be well, Miro.
>
I'm well. I'm afraid you are not, as there is no goodness in what you
use, and something could be very disharmonious in that for you and for
Devuan.

Regards!
--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr