On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:39:23PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:49:32AM +0300, Vlad wrote:
> Multi-seat logins are very useful in situations where users do not
> understand how to run X11 applications with different user
> permissions.
I guess so.
> It is an easy mechanism that is familiar to users from
> other systems coming over to Linux.
Fine...
> You don't have to have it installed on your copy,
Intrinsically and absolutely important. I won't have'em in my copy! And
if I get to teach newbies Grsec for Devuan, if Devuan gets fully-foss
(in the terms of true freedom, such as SELinux, the spy-tool, certainly
is not) or close enough to, as I hope (see the MirDevuan "WTF" thread
too currently being contributed to), I will always recommend against
multiseat too.
> but having an option is not a bad thing.
In controlled (I mean user controlled) cases, fine!

Because, prove me wrong. Often the surveillors most used tools, since
otherwise they wouldn't be able to follow their targets, is exactly
multiseats.

They see, sitting in their bunkers, which public at large has mostly
never any notion about, and thanks to stuff like dbus, multiseat,
pulseaudio (pulsoaudio was designed by those tools of the
one-Ring-cravers for eavesdropping!), and surely systemd goes to
perfection in bulk collection and worse!...

They see, sitting in their bunkers, their target's every move, every
move! On their screen, replicated what the torget does. In real time!
And most of them wouldn't be able to follow their targets without such
aides, because they're not all experts, really.

A little harder following their tagets without any poetterware.

A disclaimer: fine, the spies following targets, fine! When we really
talk terrorists and criminals, you should follow those, I approve of
that! But for the love of God, not wholesale surveillance on the general
population, please!

Regards!

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Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr