On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:51:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:03:03 +0200
> miro.rovis@??? wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:50:44AM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus.
> > >
> > >
> > > Vdev does not use dbus. No idea how or why you came to this
> > > conclusion. Search the code if you don't believe me.
> > >
> > > -Jude
> > I believe you. You never appeared dishonest to me. And I'm very glad
> > that I was wrong!
>
> Am I the only one who doesn't understand one word of this thread?
>
> I'll say one thing though: Like miro.rovis, if I had my ideal system,
> it would lack dbus. I was actually able to accomplish that with one
> alternate-initted Manjaro-OpenRC. No dbus. I used oss instead of alsa,
> and it worked great.
And I have in my Gentoo alsa working perfectly (and surely: without
pulseaudio), without dbus, really a nice, intrusion unfriendly install,
and improving.

And on my Debian when I mostly (not completely) succeeded in applying
lots of stuff from:

MirDebian "WTF" Repository
https://www.mirbsd.org/~tg/Debs/debidx.htm
(from another, the-then location, actually; and, speaking of changes, it
appears MirDebian WTF has even more to offer now then back then, and is
regularly updated)... Thorsten, are you reading this (see the attached
"550 Unrouteable address" in the 2nd mail of mine in this thread if
anybody wonder why I'ask)?

I, then, had my Debian running pure alsa as well (but couldn't get the
audio for TV-card to work...), and without most any of the other
poetterware. And I made that Tips page about it (see my
first-in-this-thread mail). It's not as read as my Grsec Install Tips
page for Debian (see my 1st mail), not only was, but still is (still
is!), but it did grew to a few thounsad views, it did. Ask golinux, xhe
was suprised I looked like talking to muself in that page...

Meaning, Debianers were able to follow it and clean their systems from
systemd and dbus and pulseaudio with more or less success, or at the
very least were eager too!

Regards!
--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr