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Skribent: Didier Kryn
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Emne: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes
Le 19/07/2015 19:40, T.J. Duchene a écrit :
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-bounces@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Didier Kryn
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:01 PM
>> To: dng@???
>> Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes
>>
>>       Hey T.J.

>>
>>       Not Linuxisms, GNUisms. Nano (and Emacs) belongs to GNU, and you
>> know it: GNU's Not Unix! Do not forget we are talking of GNU/Linux.
>> Trying to be POSIX-compliant, sure, but GNU nevertheless... a dilemma :-)

>>
>>       Good day.
>>                               Didier

>>
> [T.J. Duchene] LOL! =)
>
> You make a wonderful point, Didier. Quirks in GNU tools *are* a pain at times, I heartily agree. Still, what cannot be cured must be endured. I think if the FSF actually embarked on making sure their "crapware" (my personal phrase - no offense anyone) function even remotely close to BSD style (that everyone else outside of Linux uses), they would have to do a complete rewrite. Usually, you just install the GNU tools along with the ones the OS provides and hope for the best when trying to compile.
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> But no, that really was not what I was concerned about. I'm not criticizing Devuan directly, but common standards really aren't the Linux way lately, and it is becoming rather tiresome, at least to me. This is not Devuan's fault, but as a whole, no one involved with Linux seems to care about cross-platform standards anymore.
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> I really do not care of nano is the default editor. I've used it myself, along with joe, vi and an bunch of others over the years. I was just trying to make sure that if things are going to be replaced - as it is inevitable - that common standard remain intact as much as possible.
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> Take care!
> T.J.
>
>

     You say "crapware"; I've also read "bloatware". Everyone complains 
about GNU, including me, but I don't forget everyone is or should be 
immensely gratefull for the wonderful software they provide to the 
world, free and open. Think of gcc, glibc, emacs, latex...


     Seen from today, GNU is almost as old as Unix and I don't consider 
either of them is more entitled than the other to set the standard. I 
only have personnal preferences :-)


     Didier