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Autor: Javier
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A: unsystem
Asunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Happy (Bank) Holidays - Varoufakian Economics and UBI


El 16/07/15 a las 15:55, veleiro escribió:
> You've accurately described the USA. I agree with everything.
>
> The "state" here is just the enforcement wing of the capitalist ruling
> class. Its a very passive-aggressive assault on freedom.
>
> veleiro
>
> Caleb James DeLisle:
>> Well "my freedom" in the USA was something I left behind about 1.5 years
>> ago and I never looked back. I walked away from crackheads and herion adicts
>> wandering around, needles on the sides of the road, people screaming at
>> eachother in neighboring apartments, no jobs, no money, no oppertunities
>> except in the army or police department.


And where are you now?
You are making a mistake confusing a zone in some city with the entire
USA. You do have heroin addicts, and people searching in the garbage in
every other country of this world. The point is how much is in USA of
that and how much it is is Venezuela, for example.
No jobs where? USA has less than 5% unemployment. You have plenty of
opportunities unless you want the state to take care of you.


>>
>> I remember watching an old man driving up in the family car and pick through
>> the garbage in front of the house - collecting soda cans.


That is something that you don't have to remember in any socialist
country. You actually live that every day. Well, in some of these
countries, after decades of impressive recesion, there is not even food
in the garbage, so no point to search in there. You are provided with a
card which says how much you are going to eat this month, as provisions
are small, and the best ones goes to the communist party. I have a cuban
friend that says to me that he is tired of so much beans, it is what was
available lately, he could not buy much more, and merchants are forbidden.