On 16/07/15 12:52, hellekin wrote:
> Following the discussion on defaults and a couple of recent remarks from
> Jaromil regarding audio ("for professionals") and Franco's opinion to
> ignore new users and "focus on intermediate users", I'd like to make a
> point: if Devuan is supposed to incarnate the legacy of Debian (as is
> mentioned in the wiki: "We consider ourselves the actual Debian legacy."
> [0]), there's a simple truth that should be crystal clear to anyone on
> this list (pardon the pun):
>

>    IT'S VERY EASY TO ADD SALT, BUT VERY HARD TO REMOVE IT.

(Totally agree. Nice analogy by the way)
>
> Moreover, if Devuan delivers a base distro that actually invites users
> to personalize it and share their preferences (popcorn with foresight),
> then users will understand that this distribution is actually about
> their freedom, and not just in words.
>
> The "user" is a deadly trap of an abstraction, and Devuan should simply
> consider that the "user" ranges from a 3-year-old kid using a computer
> for the first time without supervision to Donald Knuth, and provide a
> simple system to accommodate both with minimal effort (I guess you got
> my position by now: using devuan-sdk, 'seeds', tasks, blends, and a
> public repository à la Mozilla addons...).
>
> ==
> hk
>
> Reductionism is the art of focusing on the forces that fit a model in
> order to maximize the probability of an experimental result matching the
> theory. Complexity begs to differ.
>
> [0]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/home
>
Totally agree!

Now lets get on with getting a release out and stop this constant
bikeshedding...

Tx

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