Having nano available (doesn't matter if it's default) on base installs is
critical for me. I never ever use vi unless I'm using a distro with
nano/pico not being available. I expect nano to be available in a base
install with no DE. so having a 'sys admin' version without nano seems odd.
overall it's just simpler to quick edit config files (for me) with nano and
if I'm going to do any kind of development it's not going to be from
command-line with vi. It's going to be with eclipse, emacs, or another IDE.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Go Linux <golinux@???> wrote:

> On Wed, 7/15/15, Klaus Ethgen <Klaus+dyne@???> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes
> To: dng@???
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2015, 11:02 AM
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> Am Mi den 15. Jul 2015 um
> 16:27 schrieb John Crisp:
> > On 15/07/15 17:14, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> >
> > . . . debian or devuan is
> > not focusing on beginners and even devuan is focusing on "veteran unix
> > admins" so vi(m) would be the only proper choice. :-D
>
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>
> I am not a beginner neither am I a 'veteran unix admin' so neither fish
> nor fowl.
>
> My reasons for using Linux are technical of course - it's a better OS than
> the proprietary alternatives. But they are more political than anything
> else - fighting the corporate stranglehold that corporations have on all
> aspects of our lives. After over 10 years, Linux is still a challenge when
> I leave my comfort zone. Have mercy on the likes of me, please.
>
> Maybe what Devuan needs is a 'sys admin' version (perhaps w/o a DE) and an
> 'ordinary user' version (with xfce and less complicated tools than vi as
> default).
>
> golinux
>
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