I think most systems already have less installed, which works great when
your logs aren't binary.


https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Logs

Doesn't look like we're missing out on much.



On 05/26/2015 03:49 AM, James Powell wrote:
> I wonder if gnome-logs could be patched to work with loginkit and
> rsyslog/syslog-ng/sysklogd rather than just systemd-journald? If it's
> just a log parser/viewer, it must be possible.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Jaret Cantu <mailto:jaret@realitysend.com>
> Sent: ‎5/‎25/‎2015 9:13 AM
> To: dng@??? <mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite DE: GNOME3
>
> On 05/25/2015 11:47 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 May 2015 11:31:36 -0400
> > Jaret Cantu <jaret@???> wrote:
> >
> >> I am happy to report that (most of) the GNOME3 Desktop Environment has
> >> been made to work systemd-free, in all its spiffy, OpenGL-y goodness!
> > Which would tend to show that the Gnome devloppers had no good
> reason to infect their product with systemd dependencies...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ron.
> Hey, it works on BSD.
>
> The more I deal with packages that "require" systemd, it is rapidly
> apparent that the package can simply be configured with systemd support
> for _reasons?_ It is a (pre-)build-time configuration, and distros are
> just going thataway instead of the "Oh yeah, other init systems exist"
> way.
>
> In fact, no gnome package I dealt with had a hard systemd requirement
> except one: gnome-logs. That is a gnome systemd binary log viewer. So,
> yeah, that one required systemd (journald?).
>
> mutter had a weird dependency that Debian patched in, so I had to patch
> it out, but even it worked fine before I did that.
>
> Everything else was just Debian making the systemd requirement -- not
> gnome. For the most part, I'm just changing the configuration to be the
> same as the non-Linux configuration (BSD/Hurd), which is already and
> inherently systemd-free.
>
> (Granted, I didn't check the patchlists to see if the systemd-freedom
> was actually provided by the Debian maintainers in order to get kfreebsd
> to work.)
>
>
> ~jaret
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