I wonder if gnome-logs could be patched to work with loginkit and rsyslog/syslog-ng/sysklogd rather than just systemd-journald? If it's just a log parser/viewer, it must be possible.

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From: Jaret Cantu<mailto:jaret@realitysend.com>
Sent: ‎5/‎25/‎2015 9:13 AM
To: dng@???<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>
Subject: Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite DE: GNOME3

On 05/25/2015 11:47 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2015 11:31:36 -0400
> Jaret Cantu <jaret@???> wrote:
>
>> I am happy to report that (most of) the GNOME3 Desktop Environment has
>> been made to work systemd-free, in all its spiffy, OpenGL-y goodness!
> Which would tend to show that the Gnome devloppers had no good reason to infect their product with systemd dependencies...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron.
Hey, it works on BSD.

The more I deal with packages that "require" systemd, it is rapidly
apparent that the package can simply be configured with systemd support
for _reasons?_ It is a (pre-)build-time configuration, and distros are
just going thataway instead of the "Oh yeah, other init systems exist" way.

In fact, no gnome package I dealt with had a hard systemd requirement
except one: gnome-logs. That is a gnome systemd binary log viewer. So,
yeah, that one required systemd (journald?).

mutter had a weird dependency that Debian patched in, so I had to patch
it out, but even it worked fine before I did that.

Everything else was just Debian making the systemd requirement -- not
gnome. For the most part, I'm just changing the configuration to be the
same as the non-Linux configuration (BSD/Hurd), which is already and
inherently systemd-free.

(Granted, I didn't check the patchlists to see if the systemd-freedom
was actually provided by the Debian maintainers in order to get kfreebsd
to work.)


~jaret
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