On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 12:15 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > I think the fact that I pointed out clearly shows that there is very good
> > technical reason to exclude udev, unless you are willing to be the maintainer
> > of udev outside systemd source tree in Devuan.
>

> The shortest and most reasonable route to release a stable 1.0 of
> Devuan is to use udev for the present.

See below.

> Eudev might make a good
> replacement, but udev is still the best candidate in terms of people
> using it if you follow the principle that "eyes make bugs shallow".

People are working _now_ on eudev as a replacement for udev until vdev
is finished. It might even be a good replacement for udev already for
the devuan jessie release. What do you do, except chat?

> From my point of view, past
> conversations here have been as "toxic" as Debian and the rest of Linux
> in general.

I think you are alone on this, sorry.