On 06/05/15 10:23, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Dear devuaners,
>

>     Debatting wether Devuan should allow systemd usage or forbid it 
> completely, or wether it should eradicate systemd service files from 
> all packages is interesting, but for sure prematurate. Let's discuss 
> that when someone proposes to do the job.

>

>     Up to now nobody has proposed to eradicate those service files 
> from all packages except for himself and nobody has proposed to 
> package systemd for Devuan. And, as already said, there are more 
> important things to do if you have the necessary skills.

>

>     Please let's stop exchanging flames in vain.

>

>     Didier

Hello Didier,

When I started this thread, I genuinely asked technical question related
to what I am doing in removing systemd's files from Debian sources of
some packages. I am quite sure that I didn't propose or demand that to
be implemented in Devuan. I am doing that all solely for myself.

But I have to admit that I got emotionally pulled into the discussion
about the plan to include systemd into Devuan. Yes, I am quite sure that
has been proposed in this thread. That really caught me by surprised.

Maybe that proposal was mentioned before and I missed it or I have not
yet joined this mailing list. But if you remember, I started the thread
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150317.200049.9c210008.en.html
about 2 months ago. One of my purposes is to understand whether systemd
will be included into Devuan or not. I got the impression that it will
never happen as everybody seem to agree on that .

So I think it is good to have this kind of discussions, even I don't
usually contribute due to the lack of my knowledge in the detail bits
and pieces of Linux. As it proves that we can have better understanding
of what is actually going on behind the scene, especially if the sources
came from the core Devuan people.

Cheers,

Anto