On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:50:13 +0200
Anto <aryanto@???> wrote:

> In my view, the decision to use systemd as the default init of Debian
> forces the locked-in of massive number of packages into systemd. That
> is the main problem which leads to the birth of Devuan. They then
> provide workarounds for people who want to use other init systems,
> e.g. shim, etc., to be able to use the whole systemd base distro.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anto

As a guy involved in the Debian-User systemd wars, and an early
resident of the Modular-Debian and Dng lists, what Anto says is how I
remember things. We were going for sans-systemd, not systemd optional.

SteveT

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