Don't know why but some of my posts didn't seem to make the mailing list
properly so will try again!

On 13/04/15 13:57, David Hare wrote:
> On 13/04/15 06:19, Franco Lanza wrote:
>
>> What about being devuan maintainers and contribute those packages
>> to devuan?
>
> Well, my intention is to promote Devuan and in future contribute
> whatever I can.
>
> I'm quite new to packaging and began this late 2014 before any Devuan
> structure existed, for my own use. Some of them are now outdated.
> Others (e.g. consolekit2, sane-utils) seem unavailable elsewhere so
> far.
>
> These packages are freely available, mostly including sources. I now
> use in preference Devuan packages, if available.
>
>> what is the default root password
>
> XFCE image:
>
> user user root root
>
> TDE image (same as standard Debian-live):
>
> user live No root password set
>
> Sudo is configured for both images so <sudo su> will work.
>


>
> The XFCE image was made from a clean (devuan version) debootstrap
> using --exclude=systemd-sysv
>
> From there *systemd* was exluded in apt preferences, Devuan and other
> repos configured then Devuan util-linux packages installed in chroot.
> It was then possible to purge *all* *systemd* components and build
> the rest of the system, using package lists piped to apt. No systemd
> shim is used.
>
> The custom script I use is posted at the same location as the iso, as
> is the installed package list (from which you can grep "nosystemd" to
> view the modified package versions).
>
>> I've always liked the Refracta look.
>
> +1. Before I saw Refracta I thought XFCE could not be other than
> butt-ugly. I added a set of themes and user configs similar to
> Refracta7 as well as the Refracta tools (snapshot, installer,
> refracta2usb). This is partly aimed at also helping the Refracta
> project although I don't know if an "official" Refracta Jessie ISO is
> actually planned.
>
> Regarding TDE, the DE itself has nothing requiring systemd except
> dbus, for which clean Devuan packages are available. GTK and QT4 are
> also not required since TDE has forked QT3, so also less bloat.
>