Hi all,
I'm following the list since February, as I might have some time to spare at
some point and help test/develop Devuan in the future (and migrate my machines
to it).
I did not write so far to avoid noise increase.

> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:37:23 +0100
> From: Jaromil <jaromil@???>

> On April 9, 2015 8:20:19 AM GMT+01:00, Martijn Dekkers <devuan-list1@???> wrote:
>
>> I am neither the first, nor will I be the last, to ask for a -dev list.
>
> a -Dev list is there already, just not public and invite only. Even the take over of the Kremlin was done by leaving the hangry mob outside of its gates.
>

Maybe it was a bad move to state that so late, Jaromil.
IMHO it makes explicit that the general discussion list is Devuan's bait for
trolls. There is a risk that even people who can help is bounced away.
However, I agree that the current "elightened tiranny" of the VUA / main
developers is the only sensible path, as we need devuan released before anything
else and steer away trolls and unwanted "attention". If you need to have a
private ML to fend off noise, it's better to state that clearly, and now it is.

I will try and continue following this list hoping to see enough tech discussion
keep me up to date on devuan evoulution, and I hope I'll be able to contribute
to devuan later on.

I wish
1) to thank all the developers putting their work and spare time in making
devuan a reality, as well as the testers

2) to ask everyone not having things go their own way in devuan, IF they really
want to contribute, to thorougly consider the point of development of Devuan
right now, before heating up.

While it may make sense to discuss the needs of devuan as a distribution once
it's ready, trying to steer resources (even just time) away from the devs right
now is likely perceived by them as either suicidal or harassing behaviour. Keep
your head cool and accept that some things are not prioritary to them. I
wouldn't want someone beside me to try to change my C coding conventions while
I'm deep in programming, so to speak: we should not disrupt the most important
workflow, or there will be no distribution to discuss whatsoever.

Cheers

    Massimo

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