> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilobyte@angband.pl]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:41 PM
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan
>
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:38:07PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > [T.J. ] To be honest, I do not quite get what the debate is over at
Debian.
> > That's something of a big *shrug* as far as I am concerned. Falling
> > back on Google's nameserver is no better or worse than using anyone
> else's.
>
> Most public nameservers don't log everything, mostly because they don't
> have means to monetize all that data. Google, on the other hand...

[T.J. ] The logging is debatable, Adam. I've seen some log everything,
others log nothing. Even so, if Google is monetizing DNS data, Adam, in
what way does that violate anyone's privacy? DNS calls are nonspecific
data, associated only with your carrier's dynamic IP address, not a specific
user. About the only thing I can accuse them of at present is offering a
public service. I still do not understand the rush to paranoia over at
Debian. Now, if they were logging tracking IDs in their browser, I'd be the
first to agree, but basic DNS is, of course, not the same thing.

>
> > As far as making Debian "idiot-proof" by choosing a default - for
> > most is probably not a bad thing. There are a lot of people using
> > Linux today who do not know how to set their DNS properly, even in
> > Windows. The rest of us probably have our own nameservers.
>
> Then why not set up a recursor by default? Benefits include:
> * avoiding this privacy issue
> * caching
> * secure DNSSEC (no last mile issues)

[T.J. ] Oh I agree, however, there is no accounting for taste or common
sense. Each of these Linux distributors has their own quirks that everyone
who uses their Linux is subjected to. The only reason that I said that is
that I view the goal of systemd as a trend toward homogenization. They want
every Linux to be the same. If they are going to "dumb it down" under the
guise of "advancement" then why not pick certain software and build a base
system? We would certainly view the goal as mediocre at best, but that is
the point of open source, you can go do your own thing, the rest of the
world be damned.
>
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[T.J. ] Love the sig, btw.