In that case, Veteran Unix Admins, I'm going with my plan B: CPM on my
Kaypro 2x.

SteveT

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:56:03 +0200
Veteran Unix Admins <vua-reply@???> wrote:

>
> Dear Init Freedom lovers,
>
> Once again the Veteran Unix Admin collective salutes you!
>
> As most of you know, we have followed up with our intentions in
> developing Devuan GNU/Linux right after Ian Jackson's GR vote
> resolution in Debian. We have made great progress and achieved
> several milestones among them a complete SDK to facilitate package
> maintainance, a new package repository software "Amprolla" and a
> continuous integration workflow based on gitlab and Jenkins. We are
> also proud to have facilitate the work of Jude Nelson on a new /dev
> daemon implementation called VDev and more in general to have given
> voice to all those who had doubts about systemd being a viable course
> of evolution for GNU/Linux operating systems.
>
>
> By doing so we have obviously looked deep inside Debian and systemd
> itself and we have never refrained from critically analysing what
> systemd was doing as well what we were doing and the reasons for it.
>
> We firmly believe every responsible and critical engineer out there
> should at least think twice about developing something new systems and
> even Donald Knuth teaches us in the Art of Programming that is always
> appropriate to re-think and re-design algorithms and challenge
> ourselves over our own initial beliefs.
>
>
> That's why today, after 7 months of work in the direction of forking
> Debian we have decided that not, we will not do that. Today we give
> up and we accept to be assimilated. After all, we think that systemd
> is not so bad and we can live with it.
>
> We understand some of you may not be convinced, but please consider
> our decision here is really well thought. It is also too hard for us
> to catch up with the rampant development going on in systemd and we
> believe that we can live just fine with systemd and some shims. We
> tried hard, now we hope you will believe us and even if you don't, at
> least please give systemd a try.
>
> With the existing infrastructure in place, we will start maintaining a
> mirror of systemd and use our CI infrastructure to contribute
> deterministic reproducible builds of Debian packages.
>
> We ask the free and open source software community at large to please
> accept our apologies for making so much noise on this issue, today we
> feel like we have just been trolled by all those complainers we
> initially gave voice and leverage, while it is evident they have
> nothing to contribute really. It took us some time to understand that
> systemd is the future and we hope this experience contributes to a
> critical understanding of systemd.
>
> To all those who have donated substantial amounts of money so far: we
> commit to return you all the donations in EUR or Dogecoin. The
> donations that cannot be returned will be used for a petition
> campaign to give back Kay Sievers access to push modifications to the
> Linux kernel, as well to distribute the upcoming O'Reilly book on
> systemd to poor children in Africa.
>
> so long and thanks for all the fish,
>
> The Veteran Unix Admins
>
>
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