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Aan: Veteran Unix Admins
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Onderwerp: Re: [Dng] Update from the Veteran Unix Admins
A good laugh at the funds should support
Kay Sievers kernel push

ha ha

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Veteran Unix Admins <vua-reply@???>
wrote:

>
> Dear Init Freedom lovers,
>
> Once again the Veteran Unix Admin collective salutes you!
>
> As most of you know, we have followed up with our intentions in
> developing Devuan GNU/Linux right after Ian Jackson's GR vote resolution
> in Debian. We have made great progress and achieved several milestones
> among them a complete SDK to facilitate package maintainance, a new
> package repository software "Amprolla" and a continuous integration
> workflow based on gitlab and Jenkins. We are also proud to have
> facilitate the work of Jude Nelson on a new /dev daemon implementation
> called VDev and more in general to have given voice to all those who had
> doubts about systemd being a viable course of evolution for GNU/Linux
> operating systems.
>
>
> By doing so we have obviously looked deep inside Debian and systemd
> itself and we have never refrained from critically analysing what
> systemd was doing as well what we were doing and the reasons for it.
>
> We firmly believe every responsible and critical engineer out there
> should at least think twice about developing something new systems and
> even Donald Knuth teaches us in the Art of Programming that is always
> appropriate to re-think and re-design algorithms and challenge ourselves
> over our own initial beliefs.
>
>
> That's why today, after 7 months of work in the direction of forking
> Debian we have decided that not, we will not do that. Today we give up
> and we accept to be assimilated. After all, we think that systemd is
> not so bad and we can live with it.
>
> We understand some of you may not be convinced, but please consider our
> decision here is really well thought. It is also too hard for us to
> catch up with the rampant development going on in systemd and we believe
> that we can live just fine with systemd and some shims. We tried hard,
> now we hope you will believe us and even if you don't, at least please
> give systemd a try.
>
> With the existing infrastructure in place, we will start maintaining a
> mirror of systemd and use our CI infrastructure to contribute
> deterministic reproducible builds of Debian packages.
>
> We ask the free and open source software community at large to please
> accept our apologies for making so much noise on this issue, today we
> feel like we have just been trolled by all those complainers we
> initially gave voice and leverage, while it is evident they have nothing
> to contribute really. It took us some time to understand that systemd is
> the future and we hope this experience contributes to a critical
> understanding of systemd.
>
> To all those who have donated substantial amounts of money so far: we
> commit to return you all the donations in EUR or Dogecoin. The donations
> that cannot be returned will be used for a petition campaign to give
> back Kay Sievers access to push modifications to the Linux kernel, as
> well to distribute the upcoming O'Reilly book on systemd to poor
> children in Africa.
>
> so long and thanks for all the fish,
>
> The Veteran Unix Admins
>
>
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