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Temat: Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke
Am Montag, 30. März 2015, 12:38:37 schrieb Steve Litt:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 06:25:27 -0500
>
> Nate Bargmann <n0nb@???> wrote:
> > Is this really happening?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a
> > > solution to kernel compatibility problems and a way to extend their
> > > philosophy of placing all key operating system components in one
> > > repository. According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers
> > > working on systemd, the project intends to maintain its own fork of
> > > the Linux kernel. "There are problems, problems in collaboration,
> > > problems with compatibility across versions. Forking the kernel
> > > gives us control over these issues, gives us control over almost
> > > all key parts of the stack."
> >
> >
> >
> > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community
> >
> >
> >
> > Our proximity to April 1 makes me wonder, but still...
> >
> >
> >
> > While there are several quotes in the article from one Ivan
> > Gotyaovich, I don't see any links to said quotes which leaves me a
> > bit skeptical of the veracity of the article. However, the link to
> > GitHub looks very much like a kernel source tree, but I'm not certain
> > that it is an official repository.
> >
> >
> >
> > Before anyone takes this too seriously a bit more research needs to be
> > done as we are very close to the date that an elaborate ruse is
> > plausible, at least for us in the USA.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Nate
>
> ROFLMAO,
>
> Here's the problem, Nate. With any other software vendor, we'd
> instantly and doubtlessly assume it an April Fools Joke. But this is
> systemd we're talking about, and the first time I heard that it had a 2
> way link to Gnome I thought "This must be an April Fools Joke", but it
> wasn't. Whether now or later, I fully expect the systemd guys to make
> their own kernel, and do it with a non-copyleft license.


Steve, honestly, I think this is so far off that it is completely unlikely
to happen.

With a non-copyleft license? Then its not a fork of Linux. And systemd
doesn´t run on anything else. And a new kernel?

I think it is important to stay with facts, and by all tendency for
conspiration theories around systemd, this, in my oppinion, is not a
likely outcome to *ever* happen.

I think this kind of I think the systemd guys could do anything "evil" I
can dream of kind of speech is nothing what raises the credibility of any
"we want to be wihout systemd" effort.

There are enough reasons to avoid systemd, but just this is not one.

That said, for a moment I thought WTF about the linux kernel fork thing. I
thought, hey, maybe they do even that and maintain systemd related patches
on top of vanilla kernel. But I then quickly wondered whether it is an
Aprils fools joke on exactly the cost of those who engage with
conspiration theories around systemd.

I think it is much more effective to stay to facts when dealing with
systemd. There are enough facts that for a reason to avoid it.

Ciao,
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