On Mon, 3/23/15, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet
To: "Jaromil" <jaromil@???>
Cc: dng@???
Date: Monday, March 23, 2015, 2:22 PM

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 07:44:30PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:

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> I think this is unacceptable under so many ways... some of which I've
> tried to explain. I'm also !flabbergasted! to see the discussion averted
> into the AST for GCC debacle with a touch of RMS bashing. Either someone
> is really missing the point of what is happening here, or really doesn't
> wants us to acknowledge that a Debian leader and OSI board member is
> acting this way, which I keep perceiving as bullying not only against an
> elderly member of our communities, but against anyone concerned.
>

Dear Jaromil,

the problem is not (just) of bad leaders but of the people who have
chosen them as leaders, and silently hailed to their wills just
because they were...err...the leaders...

You are definitely right: it's unbelievable that one of the most
renowkn Debian and OSI member reacts to such an innocent question like
Zacchiroli did, but this unfortunately tells a lot about the current
state of the Linux community. And also the silent inglobation of the
systemd-nonsense by all distros, just "for the better of the users" is
another sign that something has gone terribly wrong.

I think we can't do that much, if not pointing out clearly that this
is not the community we dreamed of and we lived in until a couple of
years ago. And put all efforts in providing users with a credible
alternative. I have started believing that the mission of Devuan is
not just that of putting together a systemd-nonsense-free GNU/Linux
distribution, but more importantly to show that the community is still
holding tight on some founding concepts, despite some of the "leaders"
are pointing in a completely different direction. Succeding on this
front will be the ultimate win, not just for Devuan, but for the
community itself.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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A link to Revolution OS was recently posted on irc. I had never seen it before. It seems that the cycle has come full circle and now Devuan is going back to the future and reinventing the wheel all over again. Only this time the escape isn't from MS or Apple. It is from the enemy within. If history teaches us anything it is that nothing lasts for long and that freedom has to be continuously reclaimed from those who profit from control of ideas, goods and services. I see Devuan returning to its roots as the future of Linux and cooperative freedom in the digital age . . . a light in the darkness . . .

golinux