On March 21, 2015 3:34:28 PM WET, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
>
>re all,
>
>perhaps interesting to perceive the atmosphere, no trolling intended
>and please
>consider we shall not fight, rather seek undersanding and claim respect
>and the
>right to have different opinions than "the majority".
>
>At Libreplanet (the GNU/FSF conference) today someone (who?? thanks for
>that!)
>asked RMS about what he thinks of systemd. Few of us can afford to be
>there
>however from a twit by FSF member John Sullivan I apprehend the Q&A:
>
>@johns_FSF
>"RMS, do you have an opinion about systemd?" "No. I know it's free
>software, so you can make your own opinion about it." #lp2015
>
>follows up Stefano Zacchiroli (former Debian leader and present board
>member of OSI):
>
>@zacchiro
>achievement unlocked: #systemd troll brilliantly averted by rms during
>#libreplanet keynote
>
>a statement by a renown public speaker that clearly leads the public
>perception
>of someone making a question to RMS about systemd as being
>automatically a
>troll, just for the fact such a question is being asked.
>
>I've replied myself, via the @DevuanOrg twit account:
>
>is asking a question about #systemd now considered trolling? wow.
>#minculpop
>
>also later asking John:
>
>did someone explained how #Hurd is affected?
>https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html … ...and
>uclibc etc.
>FWIW (no trolling intended)
>
>and I'm serious: I'd like to hear the *opinion* (which we are all free
>to have)
>of the GNU leaders on these matters, considering the aforementioned
>implications, which I'm not sure RMS has acknowledged.
>
>I understand perfectly RMS answer above which is rather sane: he is
>separating
>the power of his role in that particular moment (setting the "ethical
>bar" on
>free software for people listening) with the fact we can all have
>opinions.
>This is something a good leader should do, rather than bully somoene
>for making
>an uncomfortable question....
>
>What I want to make here is an exortation to everyone reading: if we
>really
>think something needs to be done about systemd, please do your best in
>putting
>forward your opinion, avoiding to impose it or to aggressively wave it
>in front
>of everyone. If bullied please stand firmly by the right you have to
>have a
>different opinion and to debate it in the public. I think we need to
>state this
>because what Stefano and others are doing in this occasion is bullying
>people
>with different opinions, labeling them as trolls (and therefore enemies
>of the
>community) and ultimately denying there can even be a debate about
>systemd,
>spreading fear in anyone willing to debate it.
>
>I think this is totally unacceptable for a free society, that's why I
>label it
>as MinCulPop attitude, which ultimately was the fascist authority which
>established what can be debated, something Italians remember very well:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Popular_Culture
>
>ciao
>
>
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