On 03/04/2015 07:06 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
> Personally, I would rather stay away from the world of Google.
> Although I have no real say in the matter. That IMO would be a
> security breach, considering their ties to government agencies.
>
> Just my 2 cents!
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message----- From: "T.J. Duchene"
> [t.j.duchene@???] Date: 03/04/2015 06:14 PM To:
> dng@??? Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use
> Mozilla products as is
>
>
> On 03/04/2015 01:25 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will
>>> use
>>>> the re-branded Mozilla products.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I understood, the main reason for the re-branding
>>>> is the Mozilla license that does not comply with DSFG
>>>> (https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines). Or the
>>>> other way around? Sorry, I don't really understand
>>>> licensing.
>>>>
>>>> Is Devuan going to use the exact same guideline? If not,is
>>>> there any plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is in
>>>> the future, especially Firefox and Thunderbird?
>
> If I recall correctly - which I may not be - the problem was that
> if Debian wanted to use the Firefox name and logo, then Firefox
> must approve every patch in advance, even security updates. Debian
> said that was/is ridiculous so they were not allowed to use the
> logo or the name for any Mozilla software.
>
> Quite frankly, I agree with that stance. It is stupid. But it is
> also understandable. Mozilla does not want to be blamed for a bad
> patch they had nothing to do with.
>
> If I might offer an alternative suggestion? I'd rather see Devuan
> default to Chromium with NAPI support than use Firefox, period.
> As for Thunderbird, I see no reason to use Mozilla's version.
> Unless things have changed since I last heard, it undermaintained
> anyway. Mozilla was going to sunset the entire project, but outcry
> stop them. As far as I know, they update it with new versions of
> XUL but do little else.
>
> I don't think it has had new features not related to keeping up
> with Firefox in over five years.
>
> t.j.
>
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