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Címzett: KatolaZ
CC: dng@lists.dyne.org, T.J. Duchene
Tárgy: Re: [Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds
I would like to remind you that nobody was
born a great coder but through misstakes
learned to be better.

I think some coders that write crappy code
are on their way to be great. others have
a hidden agenda and theres a difference.

I consider myself of moderate coding skills
and I like shell. I learnt coding in basic, modula2 and some c.

Sometimes its hard to find time to write good code at least when you got
another job.

What about vala or does it automatically fall
in the c language catagory

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 04:42:42PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:25:23 +0000
> > KatolaZ <katolaz@??? <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Well, if you found that *for your particular tasks* C can replace Perl
> > > or Python, I believe you. But it's just not true that this should be
> > > the case for everybody else, in every possible use case.
> > >
> >
> > What I have found is that many of the arguments surrounding the
> > particular choice of "this language is better for task A, while this one
> > is better for task B" is very subjective and often entirely false.
> >
>
> Well, being "subjective" does not automatically imply "being
> false". IMHO, as with all other creative activities, programming is
> all about background, knowledge, taste, mood, weather conditions, and
> millions of other *subjective* factors. And when you choose a language
> these subjective factors will have some relevance and count.
>
> I won't ever consider JAVA for anything serious, despite I think I
> used to know that language to a sufficient proficiency level. My
> repulsion is based just on personal *subjective* factors, not on any
> technical consideration or efficiency evaluation. And this will not
> change even if you show me with convincing scientific evidence that
> JAVA is the best possible language for every possible application you
> might ever need to code. I will not use it anyway :)
>
>
> A completely different story is being able to write *good* code, which
> is normally not strongly related with the language you use. If you are
> a good coder, you will always spit out good code in LISP, javascript,
> pascal, fortran, C, haskell or whatever. If you are an asshole of a
> coder, you will unavoidably vomit garbage, whatever fancy language you
> will end up using... No language will save you. There is a *huge* lot
> of very bad C code out there, and not because C is a bad language or
> enforces bad programming habits or avoids good practices. Just because
> there are far many more assholes than good coders, IMHO.
>
>
> My2Cents
>
> KatolaZ
>
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