Also, VLC 2.2.0 (latest) has been compiled by Alien Bob for Slackware, without systemd.

http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/coordinated-release-of-vlc-2-2-0/


-----Original Message-----
From: "Gravis" [ring3k@???]
Date: 03/03/2015 01:56 PM
To: "Tom Collins" <tomcollins224@???>
CC: "dng@???" <dng@???>
Subject: Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd

> They feel if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

what gives you that idea? they dont collect usage stats or anything,
they just give you the /option/ to have the player look up missing
information about what is playing or check if there is a new release.
what is so sinister about that?

you sound like a lot like a troll.
--Gravis


On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Tom Collins <tomcollins224@???> wrote:
> Yes, that is what I mean (Video Lan Client)
> It also phones home these days by default:
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/downloading-and-installing-vlc-media-player-in-win.pageCd-storyboard,pageNum-11.html#slideshow
>
> The linux we knew is done unless everything is forked. The new generation of
> developers are not trustworthy. They feel if you have nothing to hide you
> have nothing to fear. Bascially what that means is that their world view is
> correct and anyone who is against their worldview _should_ be found out and
> be subject to the law (which they support). They are totalitarians and feel
> that the world is theirs and it is only right that people follow their
> worldview and people that do not be punished and pushed out of the world.
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 at 5:25 PM
> From: "Svante Signell" <svante.signell@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd
> On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:11 +0100, Tom Collins wrote:
>> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
>> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
>>
>> Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be
>> entirely forked to stay away from systemd. It seems every developer
>> these days is infected with a mind virus: from the phoning home that
>> todays linux software does (be it the browsers or things like V^DNLC) to
>> the acceptance and then reliance on systemd, to the cavilear attitude
>> towards security of any kind, today's developers are not the
>> trustworthy people of the past. Linux is now where the microsoft world
>> was in the 90s, with the same type of persons. ("if you're not doing
>> anything wrong" Yes, we may be doing things that you say are wrong,
>> guess what we live in different cultures and maybe are mortal enemies)
>
> I assume you mean VLC in your mail at all entries, not VNC, that's
> something different :)
>
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