On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:11:42PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 28 Feb 17:07 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > As for systemd having "tentacles", there is certainly truth to that, but
> > then the same argument could be said of Python or Perl. Both are rooted
> > so far into "standard" distributions that it is hard to extract them.
>
> With all respect, T.J., those are merely programming languages--shell, C
> and C++ are also "hard to extract"--but none are trying to dictate
> policy. They are tools a programmer uses to solve a problem which
> parallels your point that systemd is a tool for distributions, but yet
> it is seeking to impose a policy many of us dislike, especially going
> forward. Debian users are a bit insulated at the moment as the freeze
> is keeping systemd at a given version. Its tentacles extend even
> further in later versions, AIUI.

The way Perl and Python are different from systemd is that they are not
exclusionary -- using them for one package doesn't prevent using other
tools in other packages.

-- hendrik