> OFFLIST
>

Glad it was not OFFLIST - it shows true colors.


> I'd suggest we not discuss the meaning or connotation of "kickass"
> anymore. The guy who originally had the hissy-fit, Ста Деюс, had been on
> the list one whole day (with three basically non-contributory posts)
> when he decided to go off on the guy who makes our newsletter, for a
> common American idiom comprised of a verb and a noun which is very mild
> language, all things considered. Ста Деюс has no credibility: He gets
> on a list as a newbie, and starts playing policeman. He likes to hear
> himself talk, and he speaks of nothing, even when he's not pitching a
> fit. One nice thing about leaving Debian-User is I left most of the
> people like Ста Деюс behind.
>

The lack of understanding that other humans from other cultures might have
other measures is astounding and deeply offensive to me.

Five minutes after reading Ста Деюс's hissy fit, I redirected his posts
> to /dev/null. His conflict to tech ratio is just too high for me.
>

I have neither the time, inclination, or patience for Internet drama. I
will keep it short(ish) and to the point.

This post reminds me why I changed so many years ago from being an Open
Source net-contributor to an Open Source net-consumer. This kind of petty
politicking, offlist clique-forming, and what can in my view only be
described as the backstabbing a new community member that - despite obvious
cultural and linguistical barriers - tries to make some form of
contribution is outright disgusting.

Please keep your unfounded and irrational personal opinions of other people
to yourself - you are calling out a new member for "playing policeman"
whilst doing exactly that. Who handed you the jackboots and baton and put
you on that spot? Moreover, he isn't even playing *policeman* - he is
simply asking the list to keep the discussion civil, which might have come
across as harsh due to his less-than perfect command of the English
language. As this is a free, and supposedly open community, everybody has a
voice, and everybody else has the right to respond (or not) to what is
being communicated. Your ill-advised post and attitude likely pushed away a
new member of the community.

You mention your reasons for leaving Debian-User, whilst engaging in
exactly the same behavior. Ста might well be a productive contributor - all
I have seen from him so far is that he is interested in this project, and
he is simply "kicking the tires" to make sure this is a project he is happy
to invest time and effort into.

ugh :(