Nevertheless, RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC
(ONCRPC) before either GNOME or KDE existed. Heck, the earliest versions
predate Linux.
Given the combined functionality offered by PolicyKit/Polkit and dbus, I'm
beginning to think that FreeDesktop has succeeded in re-inventing the
virtual filesystem (albeit poorly).
-Jude
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Gravis <ring3k@???> wrote:
> > But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using a
> ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes it
> exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.
>
> D-Bus has existed for about a decade if not more. As far as I can tell, ZeroMQ
> has existed for a few years. Also, D-Bus is written in the fashion that
> matches how the GTK API which is a C API. libdbus has lots of language
> wrappers.
>
> D-Bus is more for RPC than IPC which is an issue as there is no standard
> in POSIX for RPC.
>
> --Gravis
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le 20/02/2015 13:48, Martijn Dekkers a écrit :
>>
>> I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and
>>> above. However, there's one thing here,
>>> there are more people running servers than people running linux on their
>>> desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers.
>>>
>>
>> I strongly believe that if we manage to pull together a kick-ass,
>> up-to-date, and rock-solid server build that does not require systemd, we
>> will see serious uptake from many, many users.
>>
>>
>> Guys, I don't think there is contradiction between server and
>> desktop. There is a difference in the user base and installed applications,
>> not in the OS. dbus and udev/eudev/mdev/vdev/ are just useful services
>> which make life easier if they are not poeterized, but could remain
>> optional. I think most desktop users expect these services, but they
>> understand it is not the top priority of the devs.
>>
>> By do-it-all desktops, I was targetting Gnome and KDE, not Xfce. It
>> is too bad that xfce4 is now contaminated, But in my installed Wheezy
>> servers and desktop, it is not. I've no complaint against it. Is there
>> anything new in the Jessie version, appart from infection?
>>
>> Concerning dbus, there is a need for publisher/subscriber
>> communication on the desktop. But I wonder why people have developped dbus
>> instead of using a ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic
>> middleware? Yes it exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.
>>
>> Didier
>>
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