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Autor: Gravis
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> But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using a
ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes it
exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.

D-Bus has existed for about a decade if not more. As far as I can tell, ZeroMQ
has existed for a few years. Also, D-Bus is written in the fashion that
matches how the GTK API which is a C API. libdbus has lots of language
wrappers.

D-Bus is more for RPC than IPC which is an issue as there is no standard in
POSIX for RPC.

--Gravis

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:

>
> Le 20/02/2015 13:48, Martijn Dekkers a écrit :
>
>    I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and
>> above. However, there's one thing here,
>> there are more people running servers than people running linux on their
>> desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers.

>>
>
> I strongly believe that if we manage to pull together a kick-ass,
> up-to-date, and rock-solid server build that does not require systemd, we
> will see serious uptake from many, many users.
>
>
>     Guys, I don't think there is contradiction between server and desktop.
> There is a difference in the user base and installed applications, not in
> the OS. dbus and udev/eudev/mdev/vdev/ are just useful services which make
> life easier if they are not poeterized, but could remain optional. I think
> most desktop users expect these services, but they understand it is not the
> top priority of the devs.

>
>     By do-it-all desktops, I was targetting Gnome and KDE, not Xfce. It is
> too bad that xfce4 is now contaminated, But in my installed Wheezy servers
> and desktop, it is not. I've no complaint against it. Is there anything new
> in the Jessie version, appart from infection?

>
>     Concerning dbus, there is a need for publisher/subscriber
> communication on the desktop. But I wonder why people have developped dbus
> instead of using a ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic
> middleware? Yes it exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.

>
>     Didier

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