> Should we understand it's based on POSIX permissions and not on ad hoc
daemon?
yes. however, there is currently a problem with flooding the system with
hundreds of new users and groups. i'm investigating the possibility of
using extended file attributes.
--Gravis
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
> Gravis,
>
> Should we understand it's based on POSIX permissions and not on ad hoc
> daemon? I'll keep breezing, but a little faster :-)
>
> Didier
>
> Le 16/02/2015 16:55, Gravis a écrit :
>
> You dont have to be a server admin to be concerned about security. I'm a
> desktop user/developer and while customization is nice, security is
> paramount.
>
> Revelations about the NSA has really made me reconsider system security
> for my box and linux in general. Obviously, systemd has a fundamental
> design flaw: it has no design because it's completely ad hoc! I'm certain
> that if not already, sometime in the future a remotely exploitable bug will
> be found and will have the terrifying potential of being able to control
> any networked machine that is running it. So for the sake of the future,
> I'm working on a seamless security paradigm that will minimize the
> capabilities programs to minimize the damage in the event that they turn
> hostile. Don't hold your breath though, I'm still designing it.
> UNIX/POSIX has impressively robust security mechanisms, we just have to
> apply them properly.
>
> - Gravis
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
>> anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
>> onboard, I mean the audience.
>>
>> 1) It is clear, by reading this list that part of us are mostly
>> concerned with servers.
>>
>> It is perfectly arguable that people involved in servers' deployment
>> do not want to dedicate time to tweaking a Linux-based desktop.
>>
>> Macintosh is definitely for these guys, first of all because its VM
>> works like a breeze. Forget dual-boot: it's a waste of time. Nate told us
>> the other day that a majority of Debian developpers follow the Mac way; the
>> more I think of it the more sense it makes to me, although it is not my way.
>>
>> Gnome and KDE are aiming to produce a free equivalent of the Mac. OK,
>> they're dropping freedom in the way, but they will produce at least
>> desktops you don't have to pay for. They may eventually pull the carpet
>> under the feet of Apple some day ... or not.
>>
>> 2) I also read that there are people who want to truely own their
>> desktop. Some call them sentimentalists, but they are the people from and
>> for wich free software arised.
>>
>> To summarize, I see two populations in the audience of Devuan, with
>> slightly different motivations (I find myself in both):
>> 1) Servers' admins, who have professionnal concerns about
>> security and productivity and don't necessary care of the desktop,
>> 2) DIY (and FIY ;-) ) addicts who want whole control on their
>> desktop.
>>
>> This all comes from reading you guys during the past month, including
>> Mr "FUCK FUCK FUCK" :-). But maybe I missed some people.
>>
>> Didier
>>
>>
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