Le 15/02/2015 19:36, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
> * On 2015 15 Feb 07:33 -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote:
>> Meanwhile the devs can't eat their own dogfood because they're not utter
>> noobs, and nobody wants the featurelist marketing is pushing.
> Indeed. I've followed Planet Debian for some time and do read LWN semi
> regularly. It astonished me at first to read of $RANDOM_DEVELOPER using
> a Apple laptop at a Linux development conference. Okay, fine, if
> they're dual-booting and actually running a Linux based desktop, but,
> sadly, they often are not and are instead running whatever Linux thing
> they're demonstrating in a VM. This is a large crux of the problem as I
> see it--developers unwilling to use what they write not only at work but
> on their own time.
>
> Down the road I would hope that when the Devuan project has developer
> conferences that someone showing up with a proprietary OS running Devuan
> in a VM would be kindly shown the door! ;-)
>
>> Why FOSS projects feel the need to emulate this toxic corporate culture is
>> a complete mystery, but they certainly do a good job of it.
> I really give credence to the line of thought that a lot of these
> developers have been poured in by the very corporate structures they're
> bringing to our systems. They have been given projects as part of their
> employment and probably do not understand nor care for the community as
> it existed up to four or five years ago (c.f. comments that the
> community is "harsh" or "difficult to work with). To me this is the
> result of a major culture clash and this "modern" Linux is the result.
>
> Prior to that point in time development was largely grassroots and
> organic. We were told that such was a "problem" for Linux to go
> "mainstream". Today we have this mess that looks to be expanding (do
> the Debian developers even know what's in store once the Sid repository
> opens up after the release of Jessie?) nearly exponentially and the
> mantra is that everything that is "old" (read, mostly debugged and
> stable) must be swept aside for "mainstream acceptance".
>
> Now I need to go and get the valentine ISO and play in a VM (on my
> Debian desktop, of course)! :-)
>
> - Nate
>
This move happened in the last decade. I understand it as computing
departments understanding that it was more expensive to pay people to
install and maintain Linux on PCs and laptops than buy Macs for their
employees.
And the employees are proud because their Mac is shiny and
EXPENSIVE. They would feel ashamed to have something cheaper.
And even the developpers, who are perfectly able to install Linux,
would feel ashamed to not have a Mac, maybe only because knote is more
shiny than libre-office. And running Linux in a VM is more productive
than dual-boot because you can vave both in the same time.
Didier
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