Same.

     I would not flame the Debian community as a whole, though.

         first because they have provided us up to now a wonderfull 
piece of work, and they will continue, since Devuan starts in the form 
of "Mostly Debian, but desinfected",

         second because many of them still do not realize the extent of 
the crime. You start with a small crime and you are forced to another, 
etc...

     One cannot judge everything by oneself; there are questions for 
which you tend to trust people you consider having  a better educated 
opinion. But after sometime you may change your mind. I had a personnal 
opinion on init only because I had been following many discussions on 
the subject on the Busybox mailing list and because I went trough the 
work of writing my own init for embedded devices.

     At least part of the Debian maintainers, who didn't dare or mind to 
follow the Devuan fork might well change their mind in the future and 
I'm afraid Devuan needs them. I think it is important that these guys 
feel welcome in Devuan and can find there a familiar development 
infrastructure. And some of them might even be willing to contribute to 
both lines of the fork.

     Let's reserve the flames to the borgs proper and their enraged 
supporters. I must confess I enjoy the words "depoeterization" and 
"desinfection" each time I read them on this list :-D

     Didier