On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 06:21:00 +0000
KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 07:33:51AM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
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> > Whilst I am still utterly amazed with how awesome Linux servers
> > are, I don't think we will ever get there with desktops.
> >
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> Agree. That's exactly why, IMHO, we should focus on what GNU/Linux
> does better, and refrain from gladly and blindly embracing the last
> miscarriage-piece-of-software "for the good of the large masses of
> desktop users". Simply put, there are no large masses of desktop
> users, and IMHO never will be, so whenever something is proposed for
> the good of these non-existing masses, an alarm should ring in our
> heads.....

Well said KatolaZ. If they want eye-candy and software that
incorporates human confusion, they should use Windows or Mac. For the
person who hasn't resigned himself to being an idiot, Linux has
Openbox, Windowmaker, LXDE, and a whole bunch of other straightforward
user interfaces.

That being said, this *is* the *Devuan* list, and our charter is
systemd-free Debian, so even though I personally think Gnome, KDE and
NetworkManager are stupid, we have to provide them.

SteveT

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