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Auteur: Martijn Dekkers
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Aan: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan - Conflict of Interest
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On 11 February 2015 at 20:41, Usspookes Lovesystemd <
usspookslovesystemda@???> wrote:

> Nothing is completely secure, there is always a way in: computers do
> what you tell them to do.
> Security exists in layers.
> What bastille does is all those basic linux-security setup things that
> you may FORGET to do otherwise.
>
> Yes you also have to patch and compile the kernel with grsecurity.
> Yes you also have to disable things like firewire in the kernel.
> Yes you also have to make sure you're running nothing extranious.
>
> BUT BASTILLE does have a place. It closes the "traditional" unix fuckups.
> So you can concentrate on the new security fuckups without getting bitten
> because of some basic thing you forgot!
>
> This is BULLSHIT that you fucking faggots say that Bastille is useless
> because
> 1) you ALLWAYS remeber to do all the little things it configures.
> and
> 2) HIRE ME TO DO IT FOR YOU.
>
> FUCK YOU
> FUCK YOU!
>
> Guess what, Bastille gets that "general case security solution" slightly
> closer.
> It also educates people as to what options exist on linux and what they do.
>
> Obviously you, ASSHOLE, have never looked at it. You FUCK.
>
> FUCK YOU!
>
> With people like you security, even the smallest amount, is IMPOSSIBLE,
> because
> you REFUSE to package/allow in scripts that do the setup, because you have
> a
> CONFLICT OF INTEREST. You want no one to learn and you want to be hired.
>
> Thus you, in your corrupt way, block things that make security ever so
> slighthly more
> straightforward on Linux. You're making work for yourself. Kinda like
> systemd
> and their consultation services: they cause the problem, now they'll fix
> it.
>
> I have used bastille as a starting point ever since 2002 or so.
> It is a very useful script for running when you first install a Linux
> system.
> (Then I continue to do what else is needed, it is a good base however, this
> way you don't forget to do things it does)
>
> You are shitsucking scum in that you won't have Bastille for Devuan. It
> shows EXACTLY
> what you people are: rentseekers. You want your cut for each install (as
> security expert) FUCK YOU.
>
> --- fbt@??? wrote:
>
> From: "Jack L. Frost" <fbt@???>
> To: Roy Nielsen <amrset@???>
> Cc: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:13:42 +0300
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:10:27AM -0700, Roy Nielsen wrote:
> > I don't believe the task is impossible, I'm sure there are people
> > working on such a tool and perhaps they will even open source it!
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Roy
>
> As an industry specialist dealing with security even as a non-infosec guy,
> I'm
> confident in saying that a general case security solution is highly
> improbable.
> But hey, improbable things happen all the time. I have this bridge I'm
> trying
> to sell...
>
>
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