On 02/11/2015 05:12 PM, mitt_green@??? wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Sorry if it was asked before, I'm relatively new to here.
>
> What's yer take on following Debian's way in dealing with trademarks and non
> free stuff?
>
*** Hi Mitt,

nobody should expect anything from Devuan beyond what has been said: the
primary objective is to deliver Jessie without systemd. Once this is
done, the community will grow, and will probably keep close to Debian in
the general lines: the Debian fork was announced as continuity with Debian.

AFAIK the VUA have been focusing on three things so far:

- providing a solid infrastructure to handle the transition
- removing systemd dependencies on the default install
- automating package maintenance and de-poettering to allow painless
integration from Debian and upstream.

Note that dealing with organizational issues, future releases, and
current trolls all have been postponed. I like this pragmatic approach
to solving real issues as they come and insist for being solved.

Now, as another recurring issue that Debian has been accused of is the
bureaucracy and the poor relationship with upstream, Devuan is a good
place to challenge this and start fresh from that point of view.

If you have strong opinions about any issue where you would like to see
change, you'd better get ready to work on it and help build solid
alternatives.

I'd like to share Howard Rheingold's motto at this point:

What it is--->is----->up to us.

Cheers,

==
hk

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