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Emne: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan - Frauds and liars -Sorry
Oh, Ok. Sorry then.

I've used Bastille since it came out. I know there's more to linux security than what it does, but it is very very
useful for setting some baseline things up post install. It doesn't do everything, but what it does is easy to forget
between deployments. It also explains everything it does in detail so it helps you learn aswell as refreshes your
memory.

It has worked fine for these 13 or 14 years of use. It has been developed until 2012 and was mature.
It worked fine with debian wheezy untill 7.8 or so, something in TK, perl, and ncurses was changed in this "stable" release which makes it so the TK interface wont come up and the ncurses interface can't save it's config and then
can't apply your changes. ... and people on here say "good, it could never ever work" when it did work for over
a decade at the very useful things it did.


--- amrset@??? wrote:
From: Roy Nielsen <amrset@???>
To: usspookslovesystemda@???
Subject: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan
- Frauds and liars
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:51:13 -0700

I actually am not making a joke of it. If you look around hard
enough, you will find that there is a project in the works, that will
hopefully be released later this year.
Regards,
-Roy

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Usspookes Lovesystemd
<usspookslovesystemda@???> wrote:

Why the hell do you laugh and make a joke of this. You people really
are scum.
The goal wasn't to dot every I and cross every T. The goal was to dot
as many i's
and as many T's one could think of in a normal Linux (UNIX LIKE
LINUX) install.
And that goal WAS achieved. Bastille is a great post-install script
to run. Do you
remeber every fucking little niggling thing you need to configure in
the realm of security?
Your answer to potentially having a FALSE sence of security is to ha
NO SECURITY.
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!
Please. Support/Package Bastille-Linux hardening tool for Devuan.
Also a hardened with grsecurity kernel would be good aswell (or is
that FALSE sense of security too?)
You fucking clowns. Everyone can see through your conflict of
interest as security contracters.
A tool exists that makes it a little easier for everyone and you
reject it.
You know with Intel Active Management Technology in every chip (AMD
has something similar, as do the ARM chipsets) how can you fucking
jokes even talk about security and false senses thereof? There is no
security, there are backdoors... but atleast one can TRY, and package
/ use WHAT OTHERS have allready created FOR YOU.
Oh... but that might cut down on your consulting biz. Fuck you you
frauds.
Thousands have been donated to you and you've just pocketed it.
--- amrset@??? wrote:
From: Roy Nielsen <amrset@???>
To: dng@???
Subject: Re: [Dng] Please!! revive Bastille hardening tool for Devuan
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:10:27 -0700
I don't believe the task is impossible, I'm sure there are people
working on such a tool and perhaps they will even open source it!
Regards,
-Roy
On 2/11/2015 11:01 AM, Jack L. Frost wrote:

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 08:55:07AM -0500, Gravis wrote:

wow. congrats on being highly offensive on your very first post.

anyway, i looked at Bastille and it's a highly tweaked script and
headed toward being a decade out of date. frankly i'm not surprised
it was dropped. Linux security needs an overhaul but your bastille
script is off mark.

--Gravis

While “it's old” is not really an argument, I tend to agree that Bastill
e is
not something anyone should waste their time on, and that's for the simp
le
reason of it being a script that tries to magically make your system mor
e
secure, which is:
1) Impossible to solve in a general sense.
2) Creating a false sense of security.
3) Hell to maintain if you actually try to accomplish the assumed goal.

Security is a delicate thing, you should never rely on magical solutions
.
Instead, learn linux, learn security, implement the needed levels of sec
urity
yourself.
That, or pay an infosec specialist. Don't run magic scripts.

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