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Συντάκτης: Julia Tourianski
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Προς: System undo crew
Αντικείμενο: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
I like the OpenBazaar project and I've participated in its early
releases...but everyone involved is on the thin ice of State whim. Good
luck. I do mean that.







For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
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On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???> wrote:

> Isn't a bomb manual protected free speech?
> On Feb 7, 2015 12:15 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???> wrote:
>
>> I think the only really way to "police" content might be to use some
>> filtering tools on the client side. This doesn't really eliminate nefarious
>> content but acts somewhat like a net nanny for those that don't want to be
>> exposed to it. Policing will come down to the same methods used for busting
>> piracy online. Trying to somehow track down the nodes in real life and
>> taking them down one by one.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Matt <millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> Curious if you could elaborate on your ideas for policing a decentralized
>> marketplace. As I understand, even Diaspora is unable to remove the social
>> pages of terrorist organizations.
>> ​Regards,
>> Matt​
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is not the first time we've been asked this question. We will do
>>> the same thing that the creators of BitTorrent do every time a bomb manual
>>> or pirated piece of software shows up on their network. I think people
>>> underestimate our ability to police the network. It is an experimental
>>> software protocol and not a centralized business. We also do not stand to
>>> take a profit, perform arbitration for merchants or buyers or have any kind
>>> of business relationship with content creators on the network. The network
>>> is agnostic and therefore is not opinionated about its usage. Will it be
>>> used for nefarious purposes? Possibly. Will it be used to do amazingly
>>> positive things? Possibly. We shall see.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Matt <millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> My question is, when hit men set up shop on *OpenBazaar*, what will you
>>> do Brian?
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is off tangent, but I am genuinely curious. This
>>> platform stands to be the best replacement for Silk Road. You don't think
>>> the government will blame you or the team for everything that is done on
>>> the site? I promise you, I know many dealers ready to sell all sorts of
>>> things that I have a feeling will put you in a morally precarious situation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 7:23 AM, ben <colypse@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wont paying tax and to support a government that uses deathpenalty as
>>>> a punishment makes every person techincally a murderer? Does it make a
>>>> difference who inject the needle or pulls the electricity switch?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-02-07 13:20 GMT+01.00, Alec Spier <alec.spier@???>:
>>>> > Huh?? ... what???? Whaaaa????
>>>> >
>>>> > All im putring forth is that murder for hire to protect some
>>>> addresses in
>>>> > the name of money is morally wrong from my perspective. If someone
>>>> has a
>>>> > valid criticism here Im open ears and arms.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my
>>>> brevity.
>>>> >
>>>> > Damian <i3inary@???> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> i like to imagine that shiva taught cody how to breakdance and he is
>>>> >> windmilling like a mofo. all destruction leads to creation...each
>>>> time
>>>> >> something is destroyed (from ideas to the physical) we build again
>>>> imbuing
>>>> >> our creations with and greater intelligence each time...the patterns
>>>> that
>>>> >> i observe seem to suggest that we need destruction to increase the
>>>> >> resolution of phi in each creation cycle. we need more codys
>>>> fearlessly
>>>> >> busting down the technical, philosophical, economic, social, and
>>>> >> political, decaying yet comfortable, falsehoods just as we need micro
>>>> >> organisms to breakdown dead or decaying organic matter. stagnation
>>>> in
>>>> >> these areas of human culture has weakened the species over the
>>>> millennia
>>>> >> to the point that it may have crossed a threshold of fragility and it
>>>> >> seems that the fractal manifests the system busting entities to help
>>>> to
>>>> >> accelerate creation by destruction and move us into a robust upgraded
>>>> >> human culture.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> don't hate the player hate the game...recognize your cosmic role and
>>>> dance
>>>> >> your spirit's dance...you need no ones permission or approval and
>>>> you will
>>>> >> be in bliss with the wind at your back. if you are standing in your
>>>> truth
>>>> >> then push the envelope and watch it bend beyond any logic or
>>>> understanding
>>>> >> of any human.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> the more one focuses their consciousness on judgement of other
>>>> beings the
>>>> >> thicker and higher one is building the walls of their own
>>>> metaphysical
>>>> >> prison.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> if you don't know what you don't know then how much do you actually
>>>> know?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Alec Spier <
>>>> alec.spier@???>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Cody,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Alright I'll admit I've not really considered arguments against my
>>>> >>> position as long as my position is that it is immoral to kill
>>>> another
>>>> >>> person for the quest of power and control. I'm not a philosopher or
>>>> >>> theologian and I am not well-versed in philosophical debate and
>>>> maybe
>>>> >>> I've got a rigid view of right and wrong. However I have a compass
>>>> inside
>>>> >>> me which points to what I personally think is right and wrong and
>>>> that's
>>>> >>> all I've got. If you don't mind giving me something clear that I can
>>>> >>> understand why Ross's actions were justified please give them to
>>>> me. I'm
>>>> >>> not stupid or stubborn, but the moral justification of his actions
>>>> aren't
>>>> >>> apparent to me and they seem to be overt to you. If you've got a
>>>> way you
>>>> >>> can put it so that I might understand you I'm willing to listen.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 at 1:27 AM
>>>> >>> From: "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???>
>>>> >>> To: "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
>>>> >>> Alec, it's because you've never actually considered the arguments
>>>> against
>>>> >>> your position. Where to begin? Nietzsche on free will and
>>>> responsibility
>>>> >>> as the tools of the theologian? The instinct of life and will to
>>>> power?
>>>> >>> It's there in Sartre too. As far back as Spinoza.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Free men are the makers of their own morality and independent,
>>>> long-range
>>>> >>> will.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> JG, yes naivete is what continues to strike me too from all of this.
>>>> >>> Surely we were all shocked he was caught in San Francisco. I want to
>>>> >>> think he was just riding the dragon. Caught up in an incredible and
>>>> >>> growing singularity, a composition that had always exceeded him.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How to the understand the daily beyond-the-law of his situation? I
>>>> am
>>>> >>> still not making of him a hero.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Alec Spier <
>>>> alec.spier@???>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I don't really understand the ambiguity here. He's down with
>>>> killing
>>>> >>>> people whom may not have even been the ones that threatened him.
>>>> How
>>>> >>>> confident can you be in your offsec that you can pinpoint someone
>>>> from
>>>> >>>> their handle via Tor and be sure it's not a patsy being set up?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 at 12:04 AM
>>>> >>>> From: "Alec Spier" <alec.spier@???>
>>>> >>>> To: unsystem@???
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
>>>> >>>> He could have just said "ehh.... Well fuck this has gotten too
>>>> hairy.
>>>> >>>> I'm just going to send all coins to different addresses and in a
>>>> month
>>>> >>>> or two post an option for anybody to get their coins back with
>>>> their SR
>>>> >>>> credentials. If anybody doesn't get their coins I'll just pay them
>>>> out
>>>> >>>> of my jillions. Time to be on my way with a plane ticket to
>>>> >>>> INSERT-NATION and be on my way with my gazillions and gazillions of
>>>> >>>> dollars"
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You don't kill people. It is that simple. Killing people is wrong
>>>> unless
>>>> >>>> it's absolutely, entirely necessary, and as demonstrated above it
>>>> wasn't
>>>> >>>> necessary, he could have walked away a free man, his greed was his
>>>> >>>> downfall and he deserves to be in prison for attempted murder.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 at 11:49 PM
>>>> >>>> From: "Juan S. Galt" <eljuangalt@???>
>>>> >>>> To: "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
>>>> >>>> Fundamental there are 3 choices human being have in the face of
>>>> >>>> conflict.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> A) seek to find a win-win scenario. This means seek to establish
>>>> >>>> Universal* (your word Cody, not mine) rules of interaction. This
>>>> is what
>>>> >>>> Bitcoin IS. A set of rules by which to exchange value. This is
>>>> also what
>>>> >>>> the internet is, a set of rules by which to transfer & exchange
>>>> >>>> information.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> B) Seek to impose your will on the other regardless of their
>>>> >>>> preferences, aka win-lose. This is how the state operates and what
>>>> they
>>>> >>>> are doing to everyone in prison and everyone harmed by the war on
>>>> drugs,
>>>> >>>> and the pharma monopolies. This path is one of power struggles and
>>>> >>>> violence. Did Ross act unethically for threatening violence, when
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> alternative was being caged by the state? Given that the state is
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> one raising the stakes of this poker game, and without them this
>>>> would
>>>> >>>> be a non issue, than it is obvious to me they must enter the moral
>>>> >>>> calculation.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> C) avoid interaction. This one has its limits ofcourse and is an
>>>> >>>> extension of B. It could be argued that Ross is responsible for
>>>> >>>> attempted murder simply because he made the choices that landed
>>>> him in
>>>> >>>> that situation, for even getting involved with building Silk Road
>>>> and
>>>> >>>> setting him self up to be in that situation.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You see, blackmail does not simply go away once you pay them off.
>>>> The
>>>> >>>> attacker can keep coming back, and to not comply in Ross's
>>>> situation
>>>> >>>> could have been life in prison. What would you have done Adam? what
>>>> >>>> alternatives?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes he ended up there regardless, though so far he has not been
>>>> charged
>>>> >>>> with attempted murder.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Ultimately, if Ross is guilty of anything, I think it is of
>>>> Naivety. Had
>>>> >>>> he encrypted his journal and named it "Cat pictures"... or not
>>>> used his
>>>> >>>> gmail with his full name on it... maybe than this would be a
>>>> different
>>>> >>>> story.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Perhaps he should have waited for decentralized markets to emerge.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Given all of this, was he not aware of the state's brutality?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> And I must ask, did his friends and family not warn him of the
>>>> ruthless
>>>> >>>> beast that writes the laws? This counts regardless of whether they
>>>> knew
>>>> >>>> or not what he was up to.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Adam B. Levine
>>>> >>>> <adam@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Hey Alec, I'm pretty sure you just got cursed by Cody Wilson!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> >>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> >>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>> codywilson@???>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> May you be faced with a terrible choice, Spier. You should be
>>>> slower
>>>> >>>>>> to second-guess him.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 8:07 PM, "Alec Spier" <alec.spier@???>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> http://voluntary.net/bitmarkets/
>>>> >>>>>>> ^^ like this as theres support for Tor and Bitmessage. If we
>>>> could
>>>> >>>>>>> get the openbazaar arbitration scheme integrated or rep-based
>>>> >>>>>>> arbiters as optional it would be superior to both current
>>>> products.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Cody: "Ross may have acted unethically in his actions. But we
>>>> should
>>>> >>>>>>> consider that he was supremely ethical as well."
>>>> >>>>>>> Actions speak louder than words... maybe I misunderstood this
>>>> >>>>>>> statement but it sounds a bit chickenshit honestly.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 at 6:33 PM
>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???>
>>>> >>>>>>> To: "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>
>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Adam, yes I'll do it. I don't want you to think I'm avoiding
>>>> you.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Circling back to your point about tyranny's obsolescence.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I want to talk about soft tyranny and State power's abstract and
>>>> >>>>>>> constitutive dimension. Its construction of the individual
>>>> subject as
>>>> >>>>>>> a political unit. There are walls to tear down other than the
>>>> >>>>>>> physical. That's why I took the time to do this Foundation song
>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> dance. The moral majority in Bitcoin is hideous and due a real
>>>> >>>>>>> reckoning.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding disruption without alternative, I'm sure it's clear
>>>> I cast
>>>> >>>>>>> my lot with the secret complicity all people have with the
>>>> disaster.
>>>> >>>>>>> Take the world financial and the sovereign debt games for
>>>> examples.
>>>> >>>>>>> We all know no real break from this circus comes without a
>>>> reset and
>>>> >>>>>>> some hard landings. Alternatives or no.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> We're all allergic to this overwhelming power. We're all
>>>> praying to
>>>> >>>>>>> see something, anything else.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 6:22 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>> adam@???>
>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "Firstly, I've not discounted the value of openbazaar. With
>>>> any luck
>>>> >>>>>>>> it will be vibrant and successful and copied. The markets will
>>>> be
>>>> >>>>>>>> black and we may rejoice. Supposing it all goes down that way,
>>>> do
>>>> >>>>>>>> you really stop being a liberal?"
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no problem with black markets, my point is that by just
>>>> >>>>>>>> allowing projects like this to emerge they naturally obsolete
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> monopoly of the state and make it impossible to have most
>>>> forms of
>>>> >>>>>>>> tyranical government because the government isn't a party to
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> transactions.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> If on the other hand we emphasize the disruptive nature and
>>>> >>>>>>>> antagonize the status quo without actually building solutions
>>>> on the
>>>> >>>>>>>> tech that is now available we'll find it illegal and then
>>>> while it
>>>> >>>>>>>> will still be continued by people willing to break the law the
>>>> >>>>>>>> progress will slow down exponentially and the utility will
>>>> drop to a
>>>> >>>>>>>> fraction of what it would be if it was not just disruptive but
>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>>> obviously too useful to fight. You might say this is good
>>>> because
>>>> >>>>>>>> it forces the hand of the state, I think that's a really short
>>>> >>>>>>>> sighted point of view given things are naturally being
>>>> obsoleted as
>>>> >>>>>>>> we continue to build.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems like we've all made our points, Cody did you want to
>>>> come on
>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! to chat on this and related topics? I
>>>> think
>>>> >>>>>>>> it's a very relevant discussion.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> >>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin!
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Cody R Wilson
>>>> >>>>>>>> <codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Firstly, I've not discounted the value of openbazaar. With
>>>> any luck
>>>> >>>>>>>>> it will be vibrant and successful and copied. The markets
>>>> will be
>>>> >>>>>>>>> black and we may rejoice. Supposing it all goes down that
>>>> way, do
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you really stop being a liberal?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> This thread was about Ross' Trial and now judgment, and
>>>> ethical
>>>> >>>>>>>>> questions like yours which were not entirely rhetorical. The
>>>> >>>>>>>>> conversation became about morality and murder.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I say a militant ethics is required, and bad subjects
>>>> necessary, to
>>>> >>>>>>>>> depose the state-form. A great place to start examining your
>>>> head
>>>> >>>>>>>>> is with your acceptance of universal morality, which I offer
>>>> is as
>>>> >>>>>>>>> much a "product" as Swiss cheese.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ross may have acted unethically in his actions. But we should
>>>> >>>>>>>>> consider that he was supremely ethical as well.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 5:52 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>> adam@???>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The gun thing? As mentioned, you seem to take on the
>>>> mission of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proving that the state can't actually enforce their
>>>> monopolies of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> control as being the entire job. That is great but again only
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> demonstrates that the illusion is an illusion, it does not
>>>> provide
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> any alternatives or solutions. Things like OpenBazaar are
>>>> actual
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> solutions so that when the current paradigm falls apart
>>>> there are
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> better systems not just hypothetically theoretical but
>>>> actually
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> working in real life before we needed them.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What good is it destroying the existing paradigm if you've
>>>> got
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> nothing better to replace it with? Decentralized tools that
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> enable p2p interactions and commerce without a trusted third
>>>> party
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> seem to solve that.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So aren't projects like what Brian and I are working
>>>> neccesary
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> alternatives for when people come around to your way of
>>>> seeing
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> things? I just don't get the whole point out the problem
>>>> but shit
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> on attempts at building something different and better thing.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you really not see the difference between openbazaar and
>>>> silk
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> road? They are structured very differently.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Brian Hoffman
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <brian@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How many have you guys sold? I feel like I haven't heard
>>>> about it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> since it came out. Seems irrelevant.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>> codywilson@???>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you hear me sighing?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take DD's little Ghost Gunner. At once a reversion, a
>>>> baiting of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the state regulatory imagination into overdrive, and the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> literalization of its own nightmare. We understand the
>>>> spirit of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> terror.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, no. I'm casting all these pearls because so many of
>>>> YOU have
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> become them, and you don't have to mettle to stand in
>>>> judgment
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of Ulbricht.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 5:33 PM, "Washington Sanchez"
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <washington.sanchez@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Meet terror with terror..."
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What a skilful use of the leviathan's ideological
>>>> hegemony to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> justify a corrupt conscience. You are not merely emulating
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their tactics, you have become them. How disappointing.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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