Cody I agree with you, this happens and is bad whether or not there are
alternatives BUT crypto alternatives are the only real alternatives I've
ever found that are actually more efficient and yet can't be stopped.
Lacking alternatives the break just weakens normal people by cutting them
off from safe markets, giving people with power the ability to

Competition in all things is the solution and unstoppable innovation
enables it. The government can create and distribute money but people
don't have to use it if there are better alternatives in daily use around
them they voluntarily choose.

I was scared when I realized this stuff years ago, bought lots of grain and
moved to the hills to grow food in a forest. Cryptocurrency is what
brought me back, and it's because the chance to have an alternative is too
possible to responsibly avoid. Terrible options are only acceptable to an
individual if they are the only option available. Given no other option, a
terrible option will do. The challenge isn't proving the situation
terrible, it's building alternatives in a situation where no alternatives
can be allowed because the official option is terrible.

I'll reach out to you separately for scheduling.

Adam B. Levine
Editor-in-Chief
Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???> wrote:

> Adam, yes I'll do it. I don't want you to think I'm avoiding you.
>
> Circling back to your point about tyranny's obsolescence.
>
> I want to talk about soft tyranny and State power's abstract and
> constitutive dimension. Its construction of the individual subject as a
> political unit. There are walls to tear down other than the physical.
> That's why I took the time to do this Foundation song and dance. The moral
> majority in Bitcoin is hideous and due a real reckoning.
>
> Regarding disruption without alternative, I'm sure it's clear I cast my
> lot with the secret complicity all people have with the disaster. Take the
> world financial and the sovereign debt games for examples. We all know no
> real break from this circus comes without a reset and some hard landings.
> Alternatives or no.
>
> We're all allergic to this overwhelming power. We're all praying to see
> something, anything else.
> On Feb 6, 2015 6:22 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *"Firstly, I've not discounted the value of openbazaar. With any luck it
>> will be vibrant and successful and copied. The markets will be black and we
>> may rejoice. Supposing it all goes down that way, do you really stop being
>> a liberal?"*
>> I have no problem with black markets, my point is that by just allowing
>> projects like this to emerge they naturally obsolete the monopoly of the
>> state and make it impossible to have most forms of tyranical government
>> because the government isn't a party to the transactions.
>>
>> If on the other hand we emphasize the disruptive nature and antagonize
>> the status quo without actually building solutions on the tech that is now
>> available we'll find it illegal and then while it will still be continued
>> by people willing to break the law the progress will slow down
>> exponentially and the utility will drop to a fraction of what it would be
>> if it was not just disruptive but also obviously too useful to fight. You
>> might say this is good because it forces the hand of the state, I think
>> that's a really short sighted point of view given things are naturally
>> being obsoleted as we continue to build.
>>
>> Seems like we've all made our points,* Cody did you want to come on
>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! to chat on this and related topics?* I think it's a
>> very relevant discussion.
>>
>> Adam B. Levine
>> Editor-in-Chief
>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Firstly, I've not discounted the value of openbazaar. With any luck it
>>> will be vibrant and successful and copied. The markets will be black and we
>>> may rejoice. Supposing it all goes down that way, do you really stop being
>>> a liberal?
>>>
>>> This thread was about Ross' Trial and now judgment, and ethical
>>> questions like yours which were not entirely rhetorical. The conversation
>>> became about morality and murder.
>>>
>>> I say a militant ethics is required, and bad subjects necessary, to
>>> depose the state-form. A great place to start examining your head is with
>>> your acceptance of universal morality, which I offer is as much a "product"
>>> as Swiss cheese.
>>>
>>> Ross may have acted unethically in his actions. But we should consider
>>> that he was supremely ethical as well.
>>> On Feb 6, 2015 5:52 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The gun thing? As mentioned, you seem to take on the mission of
>>>> proving that the state can't actually enforce their monopolies of control
>>>> as being the entire job. That is great but again only demonstrates that the
>>>> illusion is an illusion, it does not provide any alternatives or
>>>> solutions. Things like OpenBazaar are actual solutions so that when the
>>>> current paradigm falls apart there are better systems not just
>>>> hypothetically theoretical but actually working in real life before we
>>>> needed them.
>>>>
>>>> What good is it destroying the existing paradigm if you've got nothing
>>>> better to replace it with? Decentralized tools that enable p2p
>>>> interactions and commerce without a trusted third party seem to solve that.
>>>>
>>>> So aren't projects like what Brian and I are working neccesary
>>>> alternatives for when people come around to your way of seeing things? I
>>>> just don't get the whole point out the problem but shit on attempts at
>>>> building something different and better thing.
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not see the difference between openbazaar and silk road?
>>>> They are structured very differently.
>>>>
>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many have you guys sold? I feel like I haven't heard about it
>>>>> since it came out. Seems irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you hear me sighing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Take DD's little Ghost Gunner. At once a reversion, a baiting of the
>>>>> state regulatory imagination into overdrive, and the literalization of its
>>>>> own nightmare. We understand the spirit of terror.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, no. I'm casting all these pearls because so many of YOU have
>>>>> become them, and you don't have to mettle to stand in judgment of Ulbricht.
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 5:33 PM, "Washington Sanchez" <
>>>>> washington.sanchez@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Meet terror with terror..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a skilful use of the leviathan's ideological hegemony to justify
>>>>>> a corrupt conscience. You are not merely emulating their tactics, you have
>>>>>> become them. How disappointing.
>>>>>>
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