A philosophy of tokens is a token philosophy, gang.
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On Feb 6, 2015 4:55 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???> wrote:
> How thoroughly armchair.
>
> The openbazaar boys will still hang. Just with more surprised looks on
> their faces.
> On Feb 6, 2015 4:54 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???> wrote:
>
>> The terror can only be answered with terror? Are you nuts?
>>
>> The problem with the world is disruptive innovation can only happen in
>> industries which are allowed to be disrupted. That is, until cryptographic
>> tokens busted the hinges off and made it so even if you had the MOST
>> disruptive monopoly of all, MONEY, you couldn't actually enforce it any
>> more.
>>
>> Tokens allow that same unstoppable trait to be applied to anything by
>> offloading the transactional and fundamental stuff to a system that can be
>> programmed at the start to not change nothing for anybody.
>>
>> So the domino has already been knocked, we already have the ability to
>> have unstoppable competition in whatever it is needed in but only if we use
>> the infrastructures and models to actually create that. If we don't create
>> that, it's nothing but potential we've wasted.
>>
>> If we use it to create better alternatives than people will pick the
>> option that is in their best interest, and cryptotoken solutions for a
>> variety of reasons are very much in the best interest of the average person
>> because they represent ownership and because they don't have expensive
>> identity infrastructures they represent much more efficient systems
>> relative to the existing, non-competitive alternatives.
>>
>> So.... Have fun with your terror to meet their terror. If you fail you
>> can go to work for them since you'll already have the right skill set.
>>
>> Adam B. Levine
>> Editor-in-Chief
>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Adam, I'll put it like this. Many otherwise liberty-minded people have
>>> an uncritical acceptance of the Statist paradigm, which goes beyond a
>>> principal of objective political power. Our revolutionary imagination is
>>> captured in a moral dialectic as well, one that now principally operates as
>>> a shield for the technocratic machinery.
>>>
>>> Let me continue. This isn't the nineteenth century. We don't get to
>>> peaceably ignore the cold monster and build out free spheres of action. The
>>> five-eyed beast not only lays claim to the political subject's reality, it
>>> claims absolute ideological hegemony as well.
>>>
>>> This terror can only be answered with terror. Not a fat good conscience
>>> happily spitting what's "good" and "bad."
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Adam B. Levine <adam@???
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joerg, what is a martyr if not someone who suffers publicly in the
>>>> present as a casualty of a battle that should and will be won at some point
>>>> in the future, which had it been won now would have negated their present
>>>> suffering?
>>>>
>>>> The case sets new standards, yes. What does that have to do with being
>>>> a fan of ross? The standards being set are platform based and if anything
>>>> Ross has done major damage by being so obviously guilty that the broader
>>>> argument about platform responsibility and what it means never even needed
>>>> to come up. Our platform among other things enables trading of tokens
>>>> between users on the platform in much the same way silk road does, now I
>>>> have a rather irritating situation.
>>>>
>>>> Before this case there was no precedent about whether or not I, as the
>>>> platform operator, was not necessarily responsible for what my users do
>>>> with that and if something did come up we'd go to court and explain how the
>>>> tokens being traded represent pre-paid subscriptions and advertisements and
>>>> fit within the existing, tax compliant US landscape.
>>>>
>>>> It would be quite difficult to make any real case against the platform
>>>> because the platform is enabling things that are a) impossible in the
>>>> conventional paradigm without b) violating the rules of the conventional
>>>> paradigm.
>>>>
>>>> Now after silk road the precedent is very clear, the platform owner is
>>>> responsible for ANYTHING that happens on the platform because... Silk
>>>> Road! If I or any other platform operators go to court to fight this it
>>>> will be fighting against that existing precedent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julia, I don't think we're going to agree on this because you're
>>>> supporting the idea and I'm questioning the man.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juan, if you are blackmailing me and I kill you, that's murder not self
>>>> defense. Nobody was coming at Ross with an ax, they were threatening to
>>>> expose his illegal business and he wanted to avoid the consequences so much
>>>> he was willing to pay someone to kill him, do you not see a difference
>>>> between that scenario and "Axeman breaks into your trailer in the night?"
>>>>
>>>> It seems like we're back to one bad act somehow making subsequent bad
>>>> acts alright in some sense. You're saying it would have been worse
>>>> potentially if he had let whatever happen happen, and yet the outcome for
>>>> him is exactly the same except he destroyed his credibility in the process.
>>>>
>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Joerg Platzer <joerg@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "As I've said, Ross is a martyr for the drug war if you want to
>>>>> look at him like that, ..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, he is just the first guy who built a free online market, who
>>>>> put it on the table in front of our eyes. As such he will be mentioned in
>>>>> history books long before he gets out of prison, if he ever does. However,
>>>>> by the time he maybe does, free online markets will be as normal as apple
>>>>> pie or we will live in the deepest fascism ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> " .... If it was Coinbase getting knocked down for such a thing I
>>>>> suspect there would be cheers and yet Ross gets a pass because he's a
>>>>> rogue?"
>>>>>
>>>>> This case sets new standards, defines things on new territory,
>>>>> create new interpretations which will be fallen back to in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> After all, he doesn't go to jail for tax evasion or not having a
>>>>> financial services license or for having ripped customers off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards!
>>>>>
>>>>> ++jp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem <
>>>>> cshrem@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think my point is, fraud, credit card theft, child porn are all
>>>>>> very mad crimes with victims that are hurt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They all lead to violence, ect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it comes to drugs, I believe the gov't should not have a right
>>>>>> to tell me what I cannot put into my body. However I believe strong DUI and
>>>>>> DWI laws are important. Once I am putting someone else's like in danger, we
>>>>>> are going to have problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silk Road kept fraud, credit card theft, child porn, ect. off of
>>>>>> its listings, and banned anyone who broke those rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now ladies and gentleman....I'm afraid the dark net markets have
>>>>>> official gone black.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CharlieShrem.com <http://charlieshrem.com/> | *Please **encrypt
>>>>>> messages with my PGP key <http://charlieshrem.com/contact/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good interjection Charlie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We probably got lucky in the fact that the first online black
>>>>>>> marketplace was also the most moral. Pity the State shut it down eh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>>>>>>> https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem <
>>>>>>> cshrem@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't mean to but into this debate, but I wanted to point out
>>>>>>>> something interesting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Taken from Andy's article in Wired "The Dark Web Gets Darker With
>>>>>>>> Rise of the ‘Evolution’ Drug Market"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Evolution’s popularity has been driven not only by a more
>>>>>>>>>> secure and professional operation than its competitors, but also by a more
>>>>>>>>>> amoral approach to the cryptomarket than the strict libertarian ethos the
>>>>>>>>>> Silk Road preached. Case in point: About 10 percent of Evolution’s products
>>>>>>>>>> are stolen credit card numbers and credentials for hacked online accounts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That development represents an unsavory departure from the Silk
>>>>>>>>>> Road’s rule that only “victimless” contraband could be sold through its
>>>>>>>>>> anonymous black market—a sign that the traditional cybercriminal
>>>>>>>>>> underground sees an opportunity to merge its identity theft business with
>>>>>>>>>> the widening online trade in narcotics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> “It’s moved well beyond victimless crime,” says a researcher
>>>>>>>>>> for the non-profit Digital Citizens Alliance who closely tracks dark web
>>>>>>>>>> markets and asked not to be identified for legal and security reasons. “The
>>>>>>>>>> libertarian ideals behind Silk Road were about giving everyone free choice.
>>>>>>>>>> Now it’s gone past drugs to fraud. It’s just about making money.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CharlieShrem.com <http://charlieshrem.com/> | *Please **encrypt
>>>>>>>> messages with my PGP key <http://charlieshrem.com/contact/>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adam, you sing a song from the high horse of "he should have
>>>>>>>>> known better," or "what did you think was going to happen." Most people
>>>>>>>>> have been. It's an egotistical position to be frank. Ross created something
>>>>>>>>> new. Many people who have strong ideological convictions are not only
>>>>>>>>> apathetic to risk, but naive because purpose, not consequence drives them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He created a disruptive platform. It was the first. It was
>>>>>>>>> brave because it was irrational. And it did work. It gave birth to many
>>>>>>>>> more in its death.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, the result of that platform was not in
>>>>>>>>> his control...which to me is it's inherent beauty. Hero worship or not, the
>>>>>>>>> guy is history...unfortunately in every sense of the word.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>>>>>>>>> https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Adam B. Levine <
>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cody, you're all about proving the illusion of ability that the
>>>>>>>>>> state presents is nonsense and the promises they make are unrepairable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My gig is creating things, helping people think about new
>>>>>>>>>> possibilities that ignore the rather larger and intractable problems that
>>>>>>>>>> face us. Your solution is.... What, keep talking? What good is it if you
>>>>>>>>>> don't build better platforms
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/tokenly/Tokenly-Tools-and-Services> that
>>>>>>>>>> ignore the current paradigm because it is irrelevant to their functioning?
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you want to go to war and I just don't get the urge to play
>>>>>>>>>> david to goliath when our whole advantage is decentralization and the
>>>>>>>>>> ability to move much faster than the centralized opposition.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We all make our choices of how to go about causing change, I
>>>>>>>>>> feel pretty good about mine - Did you have any complaints about my
>>>>>>>>>> contribution besides not seeing the reason to support Ross given they're
>>>>>>>>>> not arguing he's innocent?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hopeful about a further controversy on appeal about how the
>>>>>>>>>>> Feds collected his server info, and if the FBI's account is impeachable.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is interesting and potentially fruitful, Constitutionally. The
>>>>>>>>>>> surveillance apparatus abridging the 4A is part of what animates the
>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But to your point, all these "workarounds" ultimately provide
>>>>>>>>>>> you with your own convenient evasion. Our fight requires bad subjects, and
>>>>>>>>>>> the revaluation of values. If you haven't had to walk into the ethical
>>>>>>>>>>> twilight yet, you aren't trying, Adam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ross had the stones to travel as far out as any of us, and to go
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond good and evil. I for one am not celebrating him as a martyr. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> celebrating him for *doing* and acting against the moral terror and world
>>>>>>>>>>> hegemon.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 2:44 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really consider one murder justifying another
>>>>>>>>>>>> murder. Just because people who do wrong go unpunished doesn't mean we
>>>>>>>>>>>> should celebrate people who do wrong but are caught and punished. From
>>>>>>>>>>>> the evidence I've seen, Ross was someone who did wrong, knew what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing and justified it to himself because he morally disagrees with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> drug war, although that doesnt have much to do with his willingness to
>>>>>>>>>>>> kill. He might have felt justified, he might have been ideologically
>>>>>>>>>>>> aligned with yours or my beliefs but he was caught, is guilty and knew the
>>>>>>>>>>>> risk going into it. He chose to fight a battle he could not win in a court
>>>>>>>>>>>> that wouldn't have let him win even if he didn't do it, which the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggests he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If anything Ross is an example of why disruptive centralized
>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions to political problems won't work. But by all means, lets spend
>>>>>>>>>>>> more time with ross hero worship and waxing poetic about how crappy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocritical and ineffectual the government is and not acknowledging that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy makes a pretty lousy hero or martyr. We know the current system
>>>>>>>>>>>> sucks. It's really really obvious. That's why we're building
>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure to work around the problem and connect people directly to
>>>>>>>>>>>> conduct commerce that wouldn't otherwise happen. That's the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People who "Believe" in ulbricht, what exactly do you believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> in? Are you totally focused on the "It's a drug market but since its not
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the corner it's not violent" feature? I'm really trying to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> the appeal of this guy after the lack of defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Kevin Gallagher <
>>>>>>>>>>>> kevin@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And who ordered the murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/06/2015 12:08 PM, Devon Read wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're arguing morality, how about considering the whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing from a different perspective. First, let's assume we can forgive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> US government for its enormously hypocritical behavior in regard to the war
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on drugs (i.e., the significant amount of evidence that the CIA imports and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially supports drug producers, the positive impact on opium
>>>>>>>>>>>>> production that our invasion of Afghanistan had (
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://static.wixstatic.com/media/99909e_2a76c5021bf544879e238e6c6afe3236.png_srz_828_480_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_png_srz),
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc), or the fact that it has really only lead to increased police budgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the highest rate of imprisonment in the world (where many low cost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "made in america" products are made by the prisoners, btw, at substantially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> below minimum wage rates). The reality is that the trade of "drugs" has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a part of our history as far back as one can look. Just like it did to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the alcohol trade, the abolition of the drug trade is what made it violent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What the Silk Road accomplished was to make it a safe and non-violent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process again - whether Ross is DPR or not, and whether or not DPR ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegedly ordered the killing of a handful of people to protect a system
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was able to conduct such a large amount of trade without violence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before that point (and with impression of protection from the threat of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-imposed violence), would you not agree that the Silk Road worked as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much more civilized mechanism than the current status quo? Wasn't it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working in a far more "moral" way than alternatives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Brian Hoffman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My argument is you've internalized your masters and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 1:25 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So your argument is drug kingpins gonna kingpin so it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all fair in love and war? I've tried hard to follow your line of argument,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I will claim ignorance here and move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On another note, I thought that he wrote the hells angel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment in his personal journal. They argued that wasn't him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey buddy, you're in the wrong line of work if you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stomach a militant ethics or name your adversary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, bourgouis legality and its attendant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> universals are keeping you in check. You, with openbazaar no less.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect you'll be singing on the stand, yes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 1:09 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So conspiracy to attempt murder is ethical now? I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard everything. I'll buy that this trial wasn't about him trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder anyone, but that's a fucking weak argument. I like how you casually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place murder in that "protection" bucket.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only that, it is ethical to protect your suppliers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and customers from ruin when another party threatens them with state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross' takedown was also necessary because of his ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 12:35 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point was not that he committed murder or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was accused of committing murder, it was that the defense did not deny that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his intention was for someone to be murdered and he took steps that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought would lead to that outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is an acceptable behavior to pay someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to murder someone else because you think they threaten your illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drug trafficking, conspiracy to drug trafficking, money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laundering conspiracy to hack, selling fraudulent identification... and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variations of what I already mentioned. The murder thing was all bullshit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he was never indicted for it. the fact that people are so hung up on it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even in this mailing list shows how effective of a slander strategy it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 9:36 AM, "Alicia Cruz" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross didn't actually get charged with murder I thought?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And was convicted on drug trafficking, hacking, and money laundering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julia, do you have a full list of what the conviction was?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was confident because "I have an answer for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately the defense was not allowed to present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half of their evidence , and half of their witnesses were not allowed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His fait was sealed before it even started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2015 10:17 PM, "Juan S. Galt" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eljuangalt@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've yet to look a the evidence presented at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, havn't had time. However, the CIA has admitted to false flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations and Its hard to argue that it is above them to do such a thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this case, particularly given how the Silk Road arguable threatens the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status quo in regards to the war on drugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, without looking at the evidence, my loyalty is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Ross. However, if those threats were indeed made, and Ross made them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than yes, that alone would deserve moral judgment and appropriate social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathias Groennebaek <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mathias@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I missed something, or did the defence not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really provide any particular proof of Ross not having ordered the hit on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several people? And if so, why is it so hard to understand why he has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted, when there is an ample amount of proof that he did indeed do so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a moral perspective, anyone involved in a murder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should in my honest opinion be convicted of their crimes. The silk road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial and a discussion in general about drugs and their legality is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate matter entirely to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Juan S. Galt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eljuangalt@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with enough mind to think about it for a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes knows this trial has been rigged from the start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is important to note that since there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> victim to Ross’s alleged illegal activity this court case is not founded on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contract law. And given the 500+ variations of cannabis that was traded on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Silk Road, it’s hard to say it was even anti-democratic with the plant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being one of the most popular recreational and medicinal drugs, which after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades of controversy remains illegal."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cointelegraph.com/news/113393/dread-pirate-roberts-imprisonment-vs-innovation-op-ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Brian Hoffman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touche
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's reddit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:22 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meh it's just fun times. Don't tell me all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reddit babble has you rattled. I'm just messing with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Brian, if I don't know better I'd say you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were being snide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:10 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And he endorses you for Bitcoin Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> board as a result of your support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I've said before, I support him because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he is accused. Not despite it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:02 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does whether or not Ross did what he is being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of and tried for, matter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Julia Tourianski
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I watched his father breakdown on the phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Ross's sister and my world has been frozen since that moment. I cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine their pain even after witnessing it. His mother is staying very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong, it's not over for her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the jury members was smiling when they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announced it. I'm so disappointed in the basic nature of the common, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Justice" machine did its job today. ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 5:42 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take heart. We knew this part was likely. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the real battle in challenging the US' acquisition of the server info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't argue the facts, but we can put them to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof on the law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 4:40 PM, "Alicia Cruz" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Matt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guilty on all charges :(:(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2015 12:49 PM, "Andrew Miller" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amiller@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > um by the way, did anyone notice what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening in Puerto Rico with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the Bitcoin Foundation and that ZeroCash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, which did present at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the prior FinCrypto, is noticeably ABSENT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this upcoming one? See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://fc15.ifca.ai (yeah, interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think your point is that because there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no research paper about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zerocash or an extension being presented at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FC or the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop, that it might be being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squelched/unwelcome somehow by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foundation influence there? That's not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case... members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zerocash team will be there and will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably present a development
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update of some kind at the rump session.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're also suggesting that because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bitcoin Foundation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sponsor of the FC conference that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted by it's influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that's the case... it's an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> academic research conference,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a panel of researchers reviews (blindedly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the papers that anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit, and selects the ones that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technically best. I haven't seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any evidence of corruption in this process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'd be happy to answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any questions you have about it. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference originated during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first crypto wars, when cryptography was on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the verge becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal; kowtowing to anti-privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested would be perverse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against its culture. Also there's a session
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the bitcoin workshop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about (improving) Bitcoin privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fc15.ifca.ai/bitcoin/schedule.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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