Just kidding ;)

From: Adam B. Levine <adam@???>
Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
To: System undo crew <unsystem@???>


Are you suggesting Cody is law enforcement?

Adam B. Levine
Editor-in-Chief
Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM, snakecharmr <snakecharmr1024@???>
wrote:
Worth mentioni

Adam B. Levine
Editor-in-Chief
Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM, snakecharmr <snakecharmr1024@???>
wrote:

> Worth mentioning
>
> From this article:
>
>
> http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/6-ways-cops-used-sex-infiltrate-disrupt-protest-groups/8146/
>
> “He would tease me for not being committed enough…he got me to become more
> involved in ‘direct action.’”
>
> It’s a known tactic of law enforcement to infiltrate groups and guilt-trip
> them into doing violent things.
>
> On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Adam B. Levine <adam@???>
> wrote:
>
> Cody, I actually said some stuff and you just hand-waved it all away with
> an insult. Are you so obviously right that you can just claim victory and
> walk away without having actually said anything besides empty
> anti-establishment platitudes? Come on, that's easy.
>
> As mentioned, I'm actually putting my money where my mouth is and building
> what I think part of the solution. What are you doing besides spouting
> flowery rhetoric and spending your time trying to get elected to
> organizations you want to destroy?
>
> Adam B. Levine
> Editor-in-Chief
> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
> wrote:
>
>> A philosophy of tokens is a token philosophy, gang.
>>
>> Back to the Lord's work.
>> On Feb 6, 2015 4:55 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???> wrote:
>>
>>> How thoroughly armchair.
>>>
>>> The openbazaar boys will still hang. Just with more surprised looks on
>>> their faces.
>>> On Feb 6, 2015 4:54 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The terror can only be answered with terror? Are you nuts?
>>>>
>>>> The problem with the world is disruptive innovation can only happen in
>>>> industries which are allowed to be disrupted. That is, until cryptographic
>>>> tokens busted the hinges off and made it so even if you had the MOST
>>>> disruptive monopoly of all, MONEY, you couldn't actually enforce it any
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> Tokens allow that same unstoppable trait to be applied to anything by
>>>> offloading the transactional and fundamental stuff to a system that can be
>>>> programmed at the start to not change nothing for anybody.
>>>>
>>>> So the domino has already been knocked, we already have the ability to
>>>> have unstoppable competition in whatever it is needed in but only if we use
>>>> the infrastructures and models to actually create that. If we don't create
>>>> that, it's nothing but potential we've wasted.
>>>>
>>>> If we use it to create better alternatives than people will pick the
>>>> option that is in their best interest, and cryptotoken solutions for a
>>>> variety of reasons are very much in the best interest of the average person
>>>> because they represent ownership and because they don't have expensive
>>>> identity infrastructures they represent much more efficient systems
>>>> relative to the existing, non-competitive alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> So.... Have fun with your terror to meet their terror. If you fail you
>>>> can go to work for them since you'll already have the right skill set.
>>>>
>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam, I'll put it like this. Many otherwise liberty-minded people have
>>>>> an uncritical acceptance of the Statist paradigm, which goes beyond a
>>>>> principal of objective political power. Our revolutionary imagination is
>>>>> captured in a moral dialectic as well, one that now principally operates as
>>>>> a shield for the technocratic machinery.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me continue. This isn't the nineteenth century. We don't get to
>>>>> peaceably ignore the cold monster and build out free spheres of action. The
>>>>> five-eyed beast not only lays claim to the political subject's reality, it
>>>>> claims absolute ideological hegemony as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> This terror can only be answered with terror. Not a fat good
>>>>> conscience happily spitting what's "good" and "bad."
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Adam B. Levine <
>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joerg, what is a martyr if not someone who suffers publicly in the
>>>>>> present as a casualty of a battle that should and will be won at some point
>>>>>> in the future, which had it been won now would have negated their present
>>>>>> suffering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The case sets new standards, yes. What does that have to do with
>>>>>> being a fan of ross? The standards being set are platform based and if
>>>>>> anything Ross has done major damage by being so obviously guilty that the
>>>>>> broader argument about platform responsibility and what it means never even
>>>>>> needed to come up. Our platform among other things enables trading of
>>>>>> tokens between users on the platform in much the same way silk road does,
>>>>>> now I have a rather irritating situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before this case there was no precedent about whether or not I, as
>>>>>> the platform operator, was not necessarily responsible for what my users do
>>>>>> with that and if something did come up we'd go to court and explain how the
>>>>>> tokens being traded represent pre-paid subscriptions and advertisements and
>>>>>> fit within the existing, tax compliant US landscape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be quite difficult to make any real case against the
>>>>>> platform because the platform is enabling things that are a) impossible in
>>>>>> the conventional paradigm without b) violating the rules of the
>>>>>> conventional paradigm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now after silk road the precedent is very clear, the platform owner
>>>>>> is responsible for ANYTHING that happens on the platform because... Silk
>>>>>> Road! If I or any other platform operators go to court to fight this it
>>>>>> will be fighting against that existing precedent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julia, I don't think we're going to agree on this because you're
>>>>>> supporting the idea and I'm questioning the man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juan, if you are blackmailing me and I kill you, that's murder not
>>>>>> self defense. Nobody was coming at Ross with an ax, they were threatening
>>>>>> to expose his illegal business and he wanted to avoid the consequences so
>>>>>> much he was willing to pay someone to kill him, do you not see a difference
>>>>>> between that scenario and "Axeman breaks into your trailer in the night?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like we're back to one bad act somehow making subsequent bad
>>>>>> acts alright in some sense. You're saying it would have been worse
>>>>>> potentially if he had let whatever happen happen, and yet the outcome for
>>>>>> him is exactly the same except he destroyed his credibility in the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Joerg Platzer <joerg@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "As I've said, Ross is a martyr for the drug war if you want to
>>>>>>> look at him like that, ..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, he is just the first guy who built a free online market, who
>>>>>>> put it on the table in front of our eyes. As such he will be mentioned in
>>>>>>> history books long before he gets out of prison, if he ever does. However,
>>>>>>> by the time he maybe does, free online markets will be as normal as apple
>>>>>>> pie or we will live in the deepest fascism ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> " .... If it was Coinbase getting knocked down for such a thing I
>>>>>>> suspect there would be cheers and yet Ross gets a pass because he's a
>>>>>>> rogue?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This case sets new standards, defines things on new territory,
>>>>>>> create new interpretations which will be fallen back to in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After all, he doesn't go to jail for tax evasion or not having a
>>>>>>> financial services license or for having ripped customers off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem <
>>>>>>> cshrem@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think my point is, fraud, credit card theft, child porn are all
>>>>>>>> very mad crimes with victims that are hurt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They all lead to violence, ect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When it comes to drugs, I believe the gov't should not have a
>>>>>>>> right to tell me what I cannot put into my body. However I believe strong
>>>>>>>> DUI and DWI laws are important. Once I am putting someone else's like in
>>>>>>>> danger, we are going to have problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Silk Road kept fraud, credit card theft, child porn, ect. off of
>>>>>>>> its listings, and banned anyone who broke those rules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now ladies and gentleman....I'm afraid the dark net markets have
>>>>>>>> official gone black.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CharlieShrem.com <http://charlieshrem.com/> | *Please **encrypt
>>>>>>>> messages with my PGP key <http://charlieshrem.com/contact/>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good interjection Charlie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We probably got lucky in the fact that the first online black
>>>>>>>>> marketplace was also the most moral. Pity the State shut it down eh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>>>>>>>>> https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem <
>>>>>>>>> cshrem@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't mean to but into this debate, but I wanted to point out
>>>>>>>>>> something interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Taken from Andy's article in Wired "The Dark Web Gets Darker
>>>>>>>>>> With Rise of the ‘Evolution’ Drug Market"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And Evolution’s popularity has been driven not only by a more
>>>>>>>>>>>> secure and professional operation than its competitors, but also by a more
>>>>>>>>>>>> amoral approach to the cryptomarket than the strict libertarian ethos the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Silk Road preached. Case in point: About 10 percent of Evolution’s products
>>>>>>>>>>>> are stolen credit card numbers and credentials for hacked online accounts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That development represents an unsavory departure from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Silk Road’s rule that only “victimless” contraband could be sold through
>>>>>>>>>>>> its anonymous black market—a sign that the traditional cybercriminal
>>>>>>>>>>>> underground sees an opportunity to merge its identity theft business with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the widening online trade in narcotics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s moved well beyond victimless crime,” says a researcher
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the non-profit Digital Citizens Alliance who closely tracks dark web
>>>>>>>>>>>> markets and asked not to be identified for legal and security reasons. “The
>>>>>>>>>>>> libertarian ideals behind Silk Road were about giving everyone free choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now it’s gone past drugs to fraud. It’s just about making money.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CharlieShrem.com <http://charlieshrem.com/> | *Please **encrypt
>>>>>>>>>> messages with my PGP key <http://charlieshrem.com/contact/>*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam, you sing a song from the high horse of "he should have
>>>>>>>>>>> known better," or "what did you think was going to happen." Most people
>>>>>>>>>>> have been. It's an egotistical position to be frank. Ross created something
>>>>>>>>>>> new. Many people who have strong ideological convictions are not only
>>>>>>>>>>> apathetic to risk, but naive because purpose, not consequence drives them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He created a disruptive platform. It was the first. It was
>>>>>>>>>>> brave because it was irrational. And it did work. It gave birth to many
>>>>>>>>>>> more in its death.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, the result of that platform was not in
>>>>>>>>>>> his control...which to me is it's inherent beauty. Hero worship or not, the
>>>>>>>>>>> guy is history...unfortunately in every sense of the word.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Adam B. Levine <
>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cody, you're all about proving the illusion of ability that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the state presents is nonsense and the promises they make are
>>>>>>>>>>>> unrepairable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My gig is creating things, helping people think about new
>>>>>>>>>>>> possibilities that ignore the rather larger and intractable problems that
>>>>>>>>>>>> face us. Your solution is.... What, keep talking? What good is it if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't build better platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/tokenly/Tokenly-Tools-and-Services> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore the current paradigm because it is irrelevant to their functioning?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you want to go to war and I just don't get the urge to play
>>>>>>>>>>>> david to goliath when our whole advantage is decentralization and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to move much faster than the centralized opposition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We all make our choices of how to go about causing change, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> feel pretty good about mine - Did you have any complaints about my
>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution besides not seeing the reason to support Ross given they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> not arguing he's innocent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hopeful about a further controversy on appeal about how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Feds collected his server info, and if the FBI's account is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impeachable. This is interesting and potentially fruitful,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitutionally. The surveillance apparatus abridging the 4A is part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what animates the support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But to your point, all these "workarounds" ultimately provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you with your own convenient evasion. Our fight requires bad subjects, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the revaluation of values. If you haven't had to walk into the ethical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twilight yet, you aren't trying, Adam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross had the stones to travel as far out as any of us, and to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go beyond good and evil. I for one am not celebrating him as a martyr. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebrating him for *doing* and acting against the moral terror and world
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hegemon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 2:44 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really consider one murder justifying another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder. Just because people who do wrong go unpunished doesn't mean we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should celebrate people who do wrong but are caught and punished. From
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the evidence I've seen, Ross was someone who did wrong, knew what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing and justified it to himself because he morally disagrees with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug war, although that doesnt have much to do with his willingness to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kill. He might have felt justified, he might have been ideologically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aligned with yours or my beliefs but he was caught, is guilty and knew the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk going into it. He chose to fight a battle he could not win in a court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that wouldn't have let him win even if he didn't do it, which the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggests he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anything Ross is an example of why disruptive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centralized solutions to political problems won't work. But by all means,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets spend more time with ross hero worship and waxing poetic about how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crappy, hypocritical and ineffectual the government is and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledging that the guy makes a pretty lousy hero or martyr. We know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the current system sucks. It's really really obvious. That's why we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building infrastructure to work around the problem and connect people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly to conduct commerce that wouldn't otherwise happen. That's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People who "Believe" in ulbricht, what exactly do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in? Are you totally focused on the "It's a drug market but since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its not on the corner it's not violent" feature? I'm really trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the appeal of this guy after the lack of defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Kevin Gallagher <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kevin@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And who ordered the murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/06/2015 12:08 PM, Devon Read wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're arguing morality, how about considering the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole thing from a different perspective. First, let's assume we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgive the US government for its enormously hypocritical behavior in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regard to the war on drugs (i.e., the significant amount of evidence that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the CIA imports and financially supports drug producers, the positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact on opium production that our invasion of Afghanistan had (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://static.wixstatic.com/media/99909e_2a76c5021bf544879e238e6c6afe3236.png_srz_828_480_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_png_srz),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc), or the fact that it has really only lead to increased police budgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the highest rate of imprisonment in the world (where many low cost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "made in america" products are made by the prisoners, btw, at substantially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below minimum wage rates). The reality is that the trade of "drugs" has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a part of our history as far back as one can look. Just like it did to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the alcohol trade, the abolition of the drug trade is what made it violent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What the Silk Road accomplished was to make it a safe and non-violent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process again - whether Ross is DPR or not, and whether or not DPR ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegedly ordered the killing of a handful of people to protect a system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was able to conduct such a large amount of trade without violence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before that point (and with impression of protection from the threat of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-imposed violence), would you not agree that the Silk Road worked as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much more civilized mechanism than the current status quo? Wasn't it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working in a far more "moral" way than alternatives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Brian Hoffman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My argument is you've internalized your masters and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 1:25 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So your argument is drug kingpins gonna kingpin so it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all fair in love and war? I've tried hard to follow your line of argument,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I will claim ignorance here and move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On another note, I thought that he wrote the hells angel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment in his personal journal. They argued that wasn't him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey buddy, you're in the wrong line of work if you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stomach a militant ethics or name your adversary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, bourgouis legality and its attendant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> universals are keeping you in check. You, with openbazaar no less.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect you'll be singing on the stand, yes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 1:09 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So conspiracy to attempt murder is ethical now? I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard everything. I'll buy that this trial wasn't about him trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder anyone, but that's a fucking weak argument. I like how you casually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place murder in that "protection" bucket.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only that, it is ethical to protect your suppliers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and customers from ruin when another party threatens them with state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross' takedown was also necessary because of his ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 12:35 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point was not that he committed murder or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was accused of committing murder, it was that the defense did not deny that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his intention was for someone to be murdered and he took steps that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought would lead to that outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it is an acceptable behavior to pay someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to murder someone else because you think they threaten your illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drug trafficking, conspiracy to drug trafficking, money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laundering conspiracy to hack, selling fraudulent identification... and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variations of what I already mentioned. The murder thing was all bullshit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he was never indicted for it. the fact that people are so hung up on it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even in this mailing list shows how effective of a slander strategy it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2015 9:36 AM, "Alicia Cruz" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ross didn't actually get charged with murder I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought? And was convicted on drug trafficking, hacking, and money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laundering. Julia, do you have a full list of what the conviction was?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was confident because "I have an answer for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately the defense was not allowed to present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half of their evidence , and half of their witnesses were not allowed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His fait was sealed before it even started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2015 10:17 PM, "Juan S. Galt" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eljuangalt@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've yet to look a the evidence presented at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, havn't had time. However, the CIA has admitted to false flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations and Its hard to argue that it is above them to do such a thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this case, particularly given how the Silk Road arguable threatens the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status quo in regards to the war on drugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, without looking at the evidence, my loyalty is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Ross. However, if those threats were indeed made, and Ross made them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than yes, that alone would deserve moral judgment and appropriate social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathias Groennebaek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mathias@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I missed something, or did the defence not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really provide any particular proof of Ross not having ordered the hit on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several people? And if so, why is it so hard to understand why he has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted, when there is an ample amount of proof that he did indeed do so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a moral perspective, anyone involved in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder should in my honest opinion be convicted of their crimes. The silk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road trial and a discussion in general about drugs and their legality is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate matter entirely to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Juan S. Galt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eljuangalt@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with enough mind to think about it for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few minutes knows this trial has been rigged from the start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is important to note that since there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> victim to Ross’s alleged illegal activity this court case is not founded on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contract law. And given the 500+ variations of cannabis that was traded on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Silk Road, it’s hard to say it was even anti-democratic with the plant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being one of the most popular recreational and medicinal drugs, which after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decades of controversy remains illegal."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cointelegraph.com/news/113393/dread-pirate-roberts-imprisonment-vs-innovation-op-ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Brian Hoffman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touche
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's reddit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:22 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meh it's just fun times. Don't tell me all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reddit babble has you rattled. I'm just messing with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Brian, if I don't know better I'd say you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were being snide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:10 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And he endorses you for Bitcoin Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> board as a result of your support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I've said before, I support him because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he is accused. Not despite it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:02 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does whether or not Ross did what he is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being accused of and tried for, matter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Julia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tourianski <juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I watched his father breakdown on the phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Ross's sister and my world has been frozen since that moment. I cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine their pain even after witnessing it. His mother is staying very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong, it's not over for her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the jury members was smiling when they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announced it. I'm so disappointed in the basic nature of the common, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Justice" machine did its job today. ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 5:42 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take heart. We knew this part was likely. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the real battle in challenging the US' acquisition of the server info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't argue the facts, but we can put them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to proof on the law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 4:40 PM, "Alicia Cruz" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Matt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guilty on all charges :(:(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2015 12:49 PM, "Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miller" <amiller@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > um by the way, did anyone notice what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is happening in Puerto Rico with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the Bitcoin Foundation and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZeroCash project, which did present at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the prior FinCrypto, is noticeably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABSENT from this upcoming one? See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://fc15.ifca.ai (yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting read)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think your point is that because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's no research paper about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zerocash or an extension being presented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at FC or the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop, that it might be being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squelched/unwelcome somehow by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foundation influence there? That's not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the case... members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zerocash team will be there and will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably present a development
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update of some kind at the rump session.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're also suggesting that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the Bitcoin Foundation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sponsor of the FC conference that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted by it's influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that's the case... it's an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> academic research conference,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a panel of researchers reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (blindedly) the papers that anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit, and selects the ones that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technically best. I haven't seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any evidence of corruption in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process but I'd be happy to answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any questions you have about it. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference originated during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first crypto wars, when cryptography was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the verge becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal; kowtowing to anti-privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested would be perverse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against its culture. Also there's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> session in the bitcoin workshop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about (improving) Bitcoin privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fc15.ifca.ai/bitcoin/schedule.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cody R. Wilson
>>>>> codywilson@???
>>>>>
>>>>> The University of Texas School of Law
>>>>> Class of 2014
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