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Autor: Mathias Groennebaek
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
Have I missed something, or did the defence not really provide any
particular proof of Ross not having ordered the hit on several people? And
if so, why is it so hard to understand why he has been convicted, when
there is an ample amount of proof that he did indeed do so?
>From a moral perspective, anyone involved in a murder should in my honest

opinion be convicted of their crimes. The silk road trial and a discussion
in general about drugs and their legality is a separate matter entirely to
me.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Juan S. Galt <eljuangalt@???> wrote:

> Anyone with enough mind to think about it for a few minutes knows this
> trial has been rigged from the start.
>
> "It is important to note that since there is no victim to Ross’s alleged
> illegal activity this court case is not founded on contract law. And given
> the 500+ variations of cannabis that was traded on the Silk Road, it’s hard
> to say it was even anti-democratic with the plant being one of the most
> popular recreational and medicinal drugs, which after decades of
> controversy remains illegal."
>
>
> http://cointelegraph.com/news/113393/dread-pirate-roberts-imprisonment-vs-innovation-op-ed
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???>
> wrote:
>
>> Touche
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???> wrote:
>>
>> What's reddit?
>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:22 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Meh it's just fun times. Don't tell me all the Reddit babble has you
>>> rattled. I'm just messing with you.
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Brian, if I don't know better I'd say you were being snide.
>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:10 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And he endorses you for Bitcoin Foundation board as a result of your
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I've said before, I support him because of what he is accused. Not
>>>> despite it.
>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:02 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does whether or not Ross did what he is being accused of and tried
>>>>> for, matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I watched his father breakdown on the phone with Ross's sister and my
>>>>>> world has been frozen since that moment. I cannot imagine their pain even
>>>>>> after witnessing it. His mother is staying very strong, it's not over for
>>>>>> her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the jury members was smiling when they announced it. I'm so
>>>>>> disappointed in the basic nature of the common, the "Justice" machine did
>>>>>> its job today. ..
>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 5:42 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take heart. We knew this part was likely. We find the real battle in
>>>>>>> challenging the US' acquisition of the server info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't argue the facts, but we can put them to proof on the law.
>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 4:40 PM, "Alicia Cruz" <accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Matt <millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guilty on all charges :(:(
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2015 12:49 PM, "Andrew Miller" <amiller@???>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > um by the way, did anyone notice what is happening in Puerto
>>>>>>>>>> Rico with
>>>>>>>>>> > the Bitcoin Foundation and that ZeroCash project, which did
>>>>>>>>>> present at
>>>>>>>>>> > the prior FinCrypto, is noticeably ABSENT from this upcoming
>>>>>>>>>> one? See:
>>>>>>>>>> > http://fc15.ifca.ai (yeah, interesting read)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think your point is that because there's no research paper about
>>>>>>>>>> Zerocash or an extension being presented at FC or the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>> workshop, that it might be being squelched/unwelcome somehow by
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> foundation influence there? That's not the case... members of the
>>>>>>>>>> zerocash team will be there and will probably present a
>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>> update of some kind at the rump session.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you're also suggesting that because the Bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>> Foundation is
>>>>>>>>>> a sponsor of the FC conference that it's corrupted by it's
>>>>>>>>>> influence.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that's the case... it's an academic research
>>>>>>>>>> conference,
>>>>>>>>>> a panel of researchers reviews (blindedly) the papers that anyone
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> submit, and selects the ones that are technically best. I haven't
>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>> any evidence of corruption in this process but I'd be happy to
>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>> any questions you have about it. This conference originated
>>>>>>>>>> during the
>>>>>>>>>> first crypto wars, when cryptography was on the verge becoming
>>>>>>>>>> illegal; kowtowing to anti-privacy interested would be perverse
>>>>>>>>>> against its culture. Also there's a session in the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>> workshop
>>>>>>>>>> about (improving) Bitcoin privacy.
>>>>>>>>>> http://fc15.ifca.ai/bitcoin/schedule.html
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