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Autor: Miles Fidelman
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Assumpte: Re: [Dng] [OT] ISIL (was Re: What's new in Systemd)
How about dental plaque? Love that analogy.

Gravis wrote:
> please, let's not include terrorists or their ideologies in our conversations.
> --Gravis
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:30 PM, hellekin <hellekin@???> wrote:
>> On 02/04/2015 03:03 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>>>>> Is not ISIL a better analogy?
>>> But not the analogy I was driving at. The Taliban is a movement that
>>> started focused on Afghanistan - a revolutionary movement. ISIL's
>>> mission is to (re)establish an Islamic Caliphate over a broad swatch of
>>> territory (kind of like the Borg). The later seems a lot more like what
>>> is happening with systemd.
>>>
>>> Miles Fidelman
>>>
>>>
>> The "Islamic Caliphate" and the general media attention of ISIL seem to
>> me to respond to an ideological warfare painted in Samuel Huntington's
>> 1996 opus "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order".
>>
>> Honestly, considering "The West" and "Islam(ism)" as monolithic entities
>> fighting each other is a bit like confusing porn with eroticism, or
>> McDonald's with food -- or war with peace.
>>
>> This heavy tendency of "Western" ideologists and mass media to draw
>> subtle portraits with chainsaws and bulldozers is not at all helpful
>> neither in understanding the phenomenon of the rise of ISIL in the
>> Middle-East nor to understand the various forms of Islam, nor to
>> understand each other as human beings, and of course it does not help
>> bringing a sane view of complexity.
>>
>> I like Poettering's own choice of the Borg, because it illustrates the
>> contradiction and paradox of his real-fictional action. Systemd is
>> doing to the free software world what Microsoft was doing in its time to
>> the computer world: it pushes the incentives of "progress", in the sense
>> of fugue, to wrap a monolithic construct (Linux) with a monolithic shell
>> (systemd) that will do it all and better than anyone else just because,
>> please don't ask, you should know.
>>
>> Yes, the Borg. An invasive, unavoidable plague that will make its way
>> like a caries down to the core of an aching tooth. I've seen the
>> presentation with all the Borg illustrations, and frankly, I thought on
>> some slides: how is that an advantage? Certainly Mr. Poettering is in
>> love with his own mind and logic, but I would certainly not appreciate
>> his poetry.
>>
>> The concept of "Pensée Unique", the "unique train of thought" that is
>> delivered year after year by the all powerful "too big to fail" Western
>> ideology has brought its heavy muddy boots into the free software world.
>> That most of distributions adopted systemd however remains less a sign
>> of quality and engineering prowess than a mix of developer laziness,
>> good marketing, and general short-sightedness -- remember SSL is still
>> around, and there's nothing worse than a bad idea whose time has come.
>>
>> That said, I wish the Devuan community-in-the-making would bring to a
>> halt the criticism of Systemd and especially when it comes to demonizing
>> it and making hardly appropriate comparisons, and start focusing on how
>> we can make the best *universal* free software operating system that is
>> not stuck in monomania, in bureaucracy, nor in the 1990s (although it
>> should definitely be working on HDDs as well).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ==
>> hk
>>
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