On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:15:50 +0100
Nikolaus Klepp <dr.klepp@???> wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt:
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:14:10 +0100
> > Godefridus Daalmans <frits@???> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Jude Nelson posted an enormous rdepends list, of what packages
> > > would need to be changed for Devuan Jessie,but from my own
> > > experimentation I concluded that it wasn't so bad if we are
> > > willing to give up on a few other things:
> > >
> > > - Give up on GNOME for the moment
> >
> > This brings up the point that we should start lobbying "upstreams"
> > not to depend on systemd. And, of course, dropping Gnome gives us
> > some credibility in that matter.
> >
> > Obviously, "upstreams" won't care what Devuan does, but if others
> > start following in our footsteps, that's a different story.
> >
> > SteveT


> I think it was said before, but I throw TDE in the bag. Contrary to
> GNOME it is fast, configurable and consumes by "todays standards"
> minimal resources.
>
> Nik

Timing is everything. mr_chris on #golug at Freenode was just singing
the praises of TDE an hour ago. He tells me TDE has no nepomuk, no
akonadi, and performs relatively well.

Personnally, I removed every KDE app and library from my computer many
years ago to Keep from Krashing (tm), but perhaps a certain subset of
KDE apps and libraries wouldn't crash and hang the computer if run from
TDE.

Nik, how reasonable would it be to use TDE without KDE apps? Would
doing so still yield benefits over and above, let's say, Xfce? Does TDE
have any systemd dependencies?

Thanks,

SteveT

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