On 2015-02-02 17:47, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> Funny thing.  I hear a lot of complaining about systemd, and yes, i
> think some of it is justified, but consider this...Rather than
> joining
> the project and steering it in another direction, or creating patches
> to fix what you do not like, everyone is just standing about
> complaining.  Now this is not to say that Devuan is sitting on its
> hands.  No one here, minus FreeBSD seems to me at least to have a
> clear action plan.  You cant avoid systemd forever, and at some point
> compatibility is going to have to be provided. 
>
> Better now than later.  I think FreeBSD and uselessd have the best
> approaches.
>
> Just for the case of devels advocate (yes deliberate pun)  systemd
> can be compiled with an absolute minimum.
OpenRC works just fine and it has all the rings and bells you would
want from systemd:
- logs (lol, welcome to 1980?)
- cgroups management
- parallel service start

Interestingly, cgroups can be disabled and this is why this init runs
on BSD, these just don't exist there.
It really doesn't hurt to have a familiar software stack across
different operating systems. Time wasted on retraining is time you
could've used to do actual work. Especially if there's literally no
benefit to said retraining.

Regards,
Michael