Steve, to my knowledge, in Debian, there aren't any dependencies on
any bootloader that aren't for configuration tools, so unlike systemd
you can replace it at will. in fact, i'm pretty sure you can
completely remove all bootloader related packages and use something
else completely.

That said, the initial release of Devuan will have the minimal amount
of changes to enable people to choose to not have systemd.
--Gravis


On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:19:55 +0100
> Svante Signell <svante.signell@???> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 17:39 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Is it just me, or is Grub2 as complex and error prone as systemd?
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if we can have alternate boot loaders.
>>
>> So, what's the problem with grub?
>
> No problem with Grub. Grub2 is the problem. Millions of files messing
> with millions of variables, and sometime following the instructions of
> which programs compile those files and which program puts it on the
> mbr/guid or whatever it's called actually works.
>
> I can probably find you five different ways in the Internet to change
> the font size on booting, and none of them works.
>
> Just like systemd, it's great if someone else does it for you, it's
> horrific if you have to do some DIY.
>
> SteveT
>

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